Greetings all,
I just received a new machine I purchasd off of eBay. Nameless for
now. It was advertised comparable to a Silvia- large brass boiler,
large brass grouphead, three-way valve, etc. Reading about these
machines aroung the web, they're designed for 'user maintenance', e.g.,
you're welcome to open them up. So, I did just that. Very easy. What
do I see? I find the plastic line coming from the water container,
intoa pump, then into the grouphead? What I don't see is any boiler or
3-way valve. Could a boiler be integrated into a grouphead? Since I'm
not sure, I took a couple of shots and posted them on my site. So, if
you would, take a look and see if you see what I don't. The two shots
are at the two following URLs:http://members.kinex.net/~jbrooks/water.jpg - Area where the water
tank sitshttp://members.kinex.net/~jbrooks/grouphead.jpg - Group head, pump, etc
OK. Just took a second look. From the bottom of the grouphead to the
top of the brass in the pic is about 4.5". So, would the boiler be
directly attached to the grouphead? Still, there's the 3-way.
Thanks again.
Jason
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In the second picture the pump is the black cylinder 'above' the brass boiler. It has 3 (2+1) orange wires on the top and a tube running to each end. Is this a pod machine? Ted *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/28/2004 at 9:36 PM Jason Brooks wrote: <Snip> unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings----- "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." (author unknown) |
Yes, I knew where the pump was. What I wasn't sure about was the boiler and the 3-way valve. And, no, it's not a pod person. ;-) Thanks, Jason Simpson wrote: <Snip> -- Jason Brooks jbrooks ------------------------------- Hanging Out in the Heart of VA, With HW Gourmet, Poppery, and soon arriving BBQ roasters, With Bodum Chambord and Krups Gusto brewers, Drinking good coffee with anyone that arrives! |
OK, reading too fast with my contacts out. Well, the big brass thing is the boiler. The three way is usually attached to the top or side of the head assembly. Find a tube that leads down to the drip tray and trace it back to the head and you should locate the 3-way solenoid. It will be a plastic coil (box) with several wires attached mounted axially on a sort of chrome 'stem' which is in turn attached to a brass plate which is (finally) attached to the group in some way. We'd need more pictures of the head from the underneath in order to point it out, I think. Ted *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/28/2004 at 9:49 PM Jason Brooks wrote: <Snip> <Snip> That <Snip> unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings----- "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." (author unknown) |
I think you've been had. This looks like a small 5 or 7 ounce boiler (silvia, solis and quaha machines have 12 ounce boilers) attached directly to the group, so there's no room for a 3 way valve. It looks a bit like the smallest Isomac machine, which retails around $250. Of course, I could be wrong or fooled by the camera angle Jim On 28 Jul 2004 at 21:36, Jason Brooks wrote: <Snip> |
Jim, my old Gaggia baby had the same setup (but aluminum alloy boiler/brass group ) and it had a 3-way. Ted *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/28/2004 at 9:29 PM Jim Schulman wrote: <Snip> <Snip> unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings----- "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." (author unknown) |
I think you are right on Jim. Looks a whole lot like the Estro Profi I took apart a while back. Here's a picture:http://members.cox.net/fullcity/ProfiInside.jpgthe small boiler attached directly to the grouphead is exactly what the Profi had and it looks just like your's Jason, even the connections and sensors are similarly placed. The boiler is probably made by Saeco:http://www.sreweb.com/saeco/via_veneto.htm.Johnny At 09:29 PM 7/28/2004 -0500, Jim Schulman wrote: <Snip> unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings<Snip> unsvbscribes) go tohttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings<Snip> |
On 28 Jul 2004 at 22:53, Simpson wrote: <Snip> Oops. But if the group is bolted directly to the boiler, how do they get the valve between them? |
Darned if I remember. Perhaps I'm confabulating. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 7/28/2004 at 9:59 PM Jim Schulman wrote: <Snip> between them? ----- "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes." (author unknown) |
Alrighty. As far as I've seen, there's no tube at the drip tray, so that indicates no 3-way. I was thinking that last night, but a bit too fuzzy to be sure. I've contacted the seller about some other things, so this will be added. It was advertized to have a 3-way valve. Shots this morning were a bit sour as well. Not sure how much more I'll use it. Jason <Snip> |
On Jul 29, 2004, at 7:21 AM, jbrooks wrote:
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Sounds like a candidate for temperature surfing.
Jim Gundlach |
If it stays, I'll be looking at that. I'm working with the seller on this one due to some likely misrepresentations and damage from shipment. Jason <Snip> |
