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Topic: SM Email List Turn-Around Time? (22 msgs / 356 lines)
1) From: dna
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but recently some of my posts to this list have taken more than 24 hours from the time I send them until they are distributed.   Other posts only take a few minutes.  Are others having the same problem?   Is this problem random or is there something I do that makes it take so long?  For example, it seems that it is the somewhat longer posts of mine that take longer, but that may be just a coincidence.
-David

I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but recently some of my posts to this list have taken more than 24 hours from the time I send them until they are distributed.   Other posts only take a few minutes.  Are others having the same problem?   Is this problem random or is there something I do that makes it take so long?  For example, it seems that it is the somewhat longer posts of mine that take longer, but that may be just a coincidence.

-David


2) From: gin
David:
It happens all of the time. Server stuff around the world, where yours goes 
and heads to SM. Sometimes it appears to be a lot of the time. I can send a 
post and two seconds later it hits the list, then again it could be hours...
I strongly suggest you talk nicely to your computer goddess.
ginny
At 11:11 AM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
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3) From: Rick Farris
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
You may not have noticed, David, but you're posting in HTML.  One of the
side effects of that is that the filesize of your email can get very big.
Particularly if you change fonts in the middle.  I know that some large
messages are automatically deleted, and if you fall into a grey area between
really big and small, I think that your post gets pigeon holed until someone
can check to ensure it's a valid post.
You might try posting in plain text and see if your mail gets processed more
quickly.
-- Rick  
From: dna
I'm sorry if this has already been addressed, but recently some of my posts
to this list have taken more than 24 hours from the time I send them until
they are distributed.   Other posts only take a few minutes.
-David

4) From: Gene Smith
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I wish I had a computer goddess.  Get's me all tingly just thinking about
it...
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

5) From: gin
I'll send one over!!
ginny
At 01:42 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
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6) From: gin
Benny knows...
g
At 02:05 PM 8/6/2004, you wrote:
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7) From: Gene Smith
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I won't say that's the first thing I learned on this list, Ben...wait a
minute...that *was* the first thing I learned on this list!
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

8) From: Gene Smith
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Thank you, Ginny.  I promise to have no other coffee goddesses before her.
No graven images, either (though...if she turns out to be a redhead, I'd
love a snapshot).
Gene Smith
riding the wild learning curve, in Houston

9) From: Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee
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Right - we keep a very tight 8 k limit on emails to prevent spam 
attachments and HTML posts and long quoted messages from hitting the 
list... don't reply to the list in HTML! people hate it...
Tom
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                   "Great coffee comes from tiny roasters"
            Sweet Maria's Home Coffee Roasting  -  Tom & Maria
                      http://www.sweetmarias.com                Thompson Owen george

10) From: John Blumel
On Aug 3, 2004, at 6:29pm, Gene Smith wrote:
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I thought Gin was the inspiration for Hot Mama.
John Blumel

11) From: gin
redheads we can do...
g
At 03:32 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
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12) From: gin
you boy's are learning, Gene you seem to be on the advanced curve!
g
At 03:29 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
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13) From: gin
watch out John, your close...
g
At 03:56 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
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14) From: dna
Rick says:
You may not have noticed, David, but you’re posting in HTML. (etc.)
I suspected the situation was what you said.  Is this information posted anywhere on SM's site?  If not, I think it would be very useful if it were and would make the list run more smoothly.  
I use a rather limited web-email application that my ISP (comcast.net) provides when I'm at work and so far as I can tell, I have no option to disable sending in HTML.  But I can send plain text when I send email from home.
-David

Rick says:

You may not have noticed, David, but you’re posting in HTML. (etc.)

I suspected the situation was what you said.  Is this information posted anywhere on SM's site?  If not, I think it would be very useful if it were and would make the list run more smoothly. 

I use a rather limited web-email application that my ISP (comcast.net) provides when I'm at work and so far as I can tell, I have no option to disable sending in HTML.  But I can send plain text when I send email from home.

-David


15) From: Rick Farris
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
I've seen it mentioned here from time to time, and noticed the same effect,
myself.  I expect, however, that our host is too busy cupping and bagging to
give much time to keeping a list FAQ updated.  Maybe someone would like to
maintain a Homeroast List FAQ?  Questions like yours, and maybe the list of
acronyms we use would be good entries.  Perhaps you'd like to take it on?
Please don't think that I was in any way criticizing your choice to post in
HTML.  I generally post in plain text, myself, but I would argue until most
others were tired of it in support of your right to post HTML.  After all,
this is the nineties ...  or wait . it's the oughts now!
-- Rick  
From: dna
. Is this information posted anywhere on SM's site?  If not, I think it
would be very useful if it were and would make the list run more smoothly .
. I have no option to disable sending in HTML .  

16) From: David Altekruse
Tom wrote:
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That's rather unfortunate for me since HTML is the only way I can send email
from work. I'm rather surprised in this day and age that people still have
problem's with HTML.  Or in an age of cheap 200,000,000,000+ byte hard disk
drives want a 8,000 byte limit on email.
Oh well.  I'll see if I can find myself a computer Goddess to comfort me.
:)
-David (this msg sent from home)

17) From: gin
David:
I will send someone right over.
ginny
you will feel much better...
At 07:04 PM 8/3/2004, you wrote:
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18) From: Edward Spiegel
At 7:04 PM -0700 8/03/04, David Altekruse wrote:
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David,
What mail program do you use that does not let you turn off HTML in email? Are you sure that it does not have an option to turn it off?
--Edward

19) From: David Altekruse
Edward writes:
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I use my ISP's (comcast.net) web-based email program.  That way I can read
all my home email from work and respond with my home email address.  It is a
very simple email program that runs on a web-browser.  Of course, I could
use my work's email (Outlook) but I don't want non-work email going to or
from that address.  Another option would be for me to use another email
server (like Hotmail, assuming it can send plain text messages) just for
this list.  There would be advantages and disadvantages to that.  Maybe I'll
give that a try.  Thanks.
-David

20) From: John Blumel
On Aug 4, 2004, at 12:02am, David Altekruse wrote:
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David,
I'm guessing that the long delayed message you referred to at the 
beginning of this thread was the "RE: +I-Roast Modification" post that 
sat on braxton.siteprotect.com for ~22 hours.
Assuming this message got hung up in Mailman waiting for approval, one 
of the reasons this may have happened is the very large amount of 
quoted text you included in your reply. And, since your ISP's web mail 
interface seems to send both a plain text and html version of the 
message, the html content more than doubled the total size of the 
message. The final byte count, including headers, was a bit (no pun 
intended) over 29K bytes.
One thing you could do to avoid this problem is to aggressively trim 
the text being quoted to minimize the total message size. Without the 
quoted text and including headers and both versions of your message, 
plain and html, the message is a little over 6K bytes. If your ISP's 
web interface has a setting that allows you to suppress the html copy 
(or not send multi-part mime messages) that would further cut the 
message size by more than half.
John Blumel

21) From: Ben Treichel
Gene,
Don't you know that Gin thinks SHE IS the computer Goddess for this list!
Thats why you shouldn't cross Mother Gin ;-)
Gene Smith wrote:
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-- 
Ben Treichel
Program Manager
S.E Michigan
SwRI
248-232-7365 (o)
248-935-6845 (m)

22) From: Ben Treichel
John Blumel wrote:
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I don't think so. I've never heard Gin compared to Betty Crocker, or for 
sale for 49.95 (or any other price) ;-)
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-- 
Ben Treichel
Program Manager
S.E Michigan
SwRI
248-232-7365 (o)
248-935-6845 (m)


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