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Topic: De Longhi Retro Burr Grinder (12 msgs / 234 lines)
1) From: alfred
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.http://www.textkit.com/0_B0000CDCMR.htmlI have been reading with interest, the grinder issue in search for a =
burr grinder for the budjet minded
I haven't seen this one on a post yet. 
Does anyone have one?
Most of the reviews on the web are quite favorable.

2) From: Gregg Reno
I've been using this grinder for a couple of months now for drip, and
I really like it.  It's a big improvement over my previous blade
grinder.  I don't do espresso (yet).
Keep in mind that I have no way of comparing the De Longhi to any of
the better grinders recommended on this list since I don't have any of
them, and I have no idea how long it is going to last me.  I look at
this as something to improve my coffee now while I decide  what I
really want.  I'm still not convinced I would notice a big difference
with a better grinder unless I move on to espresso.
-Gregg
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:40:32 -0800, alfred <2391> wrote:
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3) From: alfred
Greg:
Thanks for the input. I have the espresso and cappuccinos covered as I have 
a Mazzer Mini and love it.
Don't tell Dr Crema, but I'm really a lazy ass and would like to avoid 
twisting the dial when I grind for press pot or drip
I grind for presspot every morning and sometimes for drip later in the day. 
This would fill the bill.

4) From: Gregg Reno
The one negative is that there is some static that causes the ground
coffee to stick to the lid.  It can be a bit messy unless you give the
lid and sides a couple of taps when you empty it.
-Gregg
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5) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Did you miss this part of the second comment?: "My only gripes are that 
the coursest setting is only moderately course (but that is sufficient 
for all but a plunger-type coffee maker)"
I noticed this because my Capresso Infinity is barely course enough at 
the coursest setting.
I guess the engineers were aiming these machines at the espresso crowd.
Dave S.
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6) From: Les
Alfred, the dial isn't that hard to move!  And you do have a metal
handle screwed into the dial!
Dr. Crema
Rx:  Grab that cute little handle and move it over 2 numbers and grind
for that press pot or drip then move it back!
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7) From: alfred
Hey Greg;
Now for your purposes this sounds like a good solution and may well be.
I ordered one from Costco just to look at it.
When it arrived and I examined it I found;
Although advertised as such, when you take it apart there don't appear to be 
any burrs at all.
It looks like a chopping mechanism similar to a blade chopper.
If you plan on espresso, then I would plan on a true heavy duty burr grinder 
(yes one with hardened steel burrs)
 Unfortunately they are not cheap but essential for producing a perfect 
grind.
I will return it tomorrow.

8) From: Gregg Reno
Alfred,
Wow - my burr grinder isn't a burr grinder.  That's pretty
disappointing.  I guess then it's just one step up from the spinning
blade grinders that keep re-grinding until you stop it.
Did you get a chance to use it?  I'd appreciate your opinion on the grind.
-Gregg
On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:34:45 -0800, alfred <2391> wrote:
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9) From: Justin Marquez
I broke down and bought a cheap burr grinder , too. I got a Melitta
MEM1B. Others reported dusting.  It makes some dust - when grinding a
10-12 cups pots' worth of coffee, I get a clump about the size of the
end of a finger tip built up in one spot across from the exit from the
burrs.  Others reported static cling.  We live in a realtively dry
climate.  It does have static, but not worse than the blade grinder. 
Others reported it throwing  grinds all over the kitchen. I haven't
seen ANY of that.  I use it exclusively for drip pots and a Swiss Gold
1-cupper, and the coarsest or next-to-it setting seems fine for those.
It has actual burrs, one of which is removable for cleaning access.
I consider it an improvement over the blade type.  I think it is a
decent purchase for $30 or so.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)http://www.justinandlinda.comOn Sat, 6 Nov 2004 11:34:45 -0800, alfred <2391> wrote:
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10) From: Dennis Parham
is that bottom non removable bottom burr a flat plate?  could it 
cheaply be routed out and replaced with a metal replaceable bottom set?
Dennis Parham
On Nov 7, 2004, at 8:33 PM, Justin Marquez wrote:
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11) From: alfred
Well Greg, if you take off the hopper and look at the wheel that spins and 
chops the beans it looks like a new design and they may call it a burr but 
it looks more like a chopper.
In any case it  appears that the whole unit is much lighter than I had 
imagined.
No, I didn't try it. I am returning it tomorrow
But if it does the job for drip for you, that's all that is important
Please read this treatise on burr grinders. You should find it edifyinghttp://www.1st-line.com/machines/home_mod/conicalb.htm

12) From: Justin Marquez
No. It has the burrs on it, too.  It is probably removable by
disassembly, but I don't know if you could actually get parts for a
$30 item!
The design is such that the burrs are in a circular pattern with the
center open so that the beans feed in from the hopper in the top down
thru the stationary burr and then into the burrs.  The ground coffee
of tossed out into the lower hopper.  I'd guess the dust happens when
gounds are caught between the outside of the bottom moving burr and
are pulverized against the side of it.
It seems to grind a finer grind than I expected.  I may set it down to
the finest setting just for the heck of it and see what it produces.
(I guess some Turkish-style cowboy coffee might be different!)
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)http://www.justinandlinda.comOn Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:45:10 -0600, Dennis Parham  wrote:
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