WC: There is a difference from cup to cup with espresso and when I drink my double double, short Americano it is much better out of glass then other cup. "real or imagined" real or sure ginny |
In our discussion of our choices for a memento cup for the PNGIII only one person reflected on the shape. Having read Illy's feelings and a couple of Tom's comments - I'm wondering now how many people "really" taste a difference in cup shape. As for me I began as a purest using Illy cups. Then I received a set of six espresso cups that were straight walled. Then we fell in love with a set in Mexico that were slightly bowl shaped and our system became eclectic in every sense - mugs, U shaped V shaped you name it and its in the cabinet. So last night I buzzed trying to figure out if there was a real taste difference - and I'm not sure if it was real of imagined. What say you? John - loving espresso in virtually anything |
it makes a real and significant difference when it comes to espresso. in affects the way the crema is contained, the state of the emulsion, the capture of the aromatics and the perception of the cup throughout each sip over time. with brewed coffee, the difference is nearly all in the way aroma is experienced. as aroma plays an incredibly important role in the experience of flavour, this cannot be undervalued. as with wine glasses, it's one of those things that seems to bring out the sceptic in most people - until they have a chance to do a structured comparison tasting. -c On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:42:54 -0500, Wandering Curmudgeon wrote: <Snip> -- ********************************** Chris Tacy |
it makes a real and significant difference when it comes to espresso. in affects the way the crema is contained, the state of the emulsion, the capture of the aromatics and the perception of the cup throughout each sip over time. with brewed coffee, the difference is nearly all in the way aroma is experienced. as aroma plays an incredibly important role in the experience of flavour, this cannot be undervalued. as with wine glasses, it's one of those things that seems to bring out the sceptic in most people - until they have a chance to do a structured comparison tasting. -c On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:42:54 -0500, Wandering Curmudgeon wrote: <Snip> -- ********************************** Chris Tacy |
I personally have LOVED the silk smooth Illy cups..... until...... I just ordered some Italian Pottery (( Deruta Rafeallesco and WOW!! it feels THICK and textured like the espresso I was drinking!! SAME exact temp!! they quickly equalize where I find the porcelain (no matter HOW VERY SEET AND AWSOME THEY ARE) dont give me that FEEL..there is hardly a transition if ANY between feel from cup to shot!! ITS MY NEW FAV!! also hand painted ;-)http://www.firenzegifts.com/italian_mugs_cups_goblets.htmlDennis Parham On Mar 31, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Wandering Curmudgeon wrote: <Snip> |
On Thursday 31 March 2005 18:11, DJ Garcia wrote: <Snip> DJ, That's something you'll only do once! When that hot coffee hits the back of your mouth you'll experience something worse than Robusta at Starbucks! John - loving life in the slow lane |
I have never liked straight walled espresso cups, or even coffee
mugs. I'll chalk it up to personal preference , but I think there is
a reason too - if you like to take smaller sips, not gulps, and want
to draw in air, then a curved wall cup works better. With espresso, I
like the Sorrento shape the best but the Milano shape is really the
street-level espresso cup in italy. I think the narrower form
concentrates the crema too much and I prefer a slightly wider cup. I
also wish I could get a 60 ML cup but 70 ML is the standard. I
actually bought some 50 ML in Brazil - they are tiny! It's ironic
because Brazilian espresso is a faster, longer shot, with very light
crema color. The illy style cup is popular there. -Tom
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I have a collection of just about every shape and material of espresso and cappa cups and I have to say that I prefer to drink my espresso from the tulip-shaped thick ceramic espresso cups. I also favor this shape for my cappa cups. As nice as glass looks, I don't enjoy my drinks from glass cups. The lip is usually too thin... It may all be in my mind, but it's my mind and I'll stick with it.... Ciao, Angelo One other thing: I've noticed that most commercially logo'ed cups have the logo on the side that would face a right-handed drinker. It seems to me, that if you wanted to advertise your product, you would put the logo on the side that faces out...or, just put it on both sides.. |
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Tom,
Speaking of the Italian cups you carry, know when you will be getting
any of the Milaons, Sorrentos, or Amfalis back in stock? I was just
admiring them in relation to a cheap, thin walled *$s I picked up
recently on sale. I'd like to get something more on the lines of what
I won from ginny in a tradition that came from a Parisian cafe.
Jason |
I think that if you drink it through a straw the cup shape will not make any difference ... DJ With absolutely nothing useful to add |
I'm not sure either whether it's real or imagined, but I definitely prefer some shapes over others. I think it has more to do with feel -- weight, size, balance, ? -- than the actual taste of the coffee. My preferences change periodically, too. Also, coffee seems to taste better in a cup that just looks good. Andy --- Wandering Curmudgeon wrote: <Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings<Snip> ">http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings<Snip> Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com |
I would love to experience this when we visit Stumptown in June. Would that kind of structured tasting be possible? Have people bring their favorite cup and compare those to what you recommend? Sometime around 10:11 3/31/2005, Chris Tacy typed: <Snip> -- John Nanci AlChemist at large Zen Roasting , Blending & Espresso pulling by Gestalthttp://www.dreamsandbones.net/blog/http://www.chocolatealchemy.com/ |
Not to mention the possibility of the straw fusing to your lips ... As I promised, the shape of the cup will not make any difference, and will likely be the last thing in your mind during this experience B^) |