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Topic: Espresso Newbie Spills the Beans (6 msgs / 151 lines)
1) From: Brent - SC/TO Roasting
My first steps into espresso making have been informative, a little
painful, a little frustrating, and good.  The recommendations from the
list for research and reading were excellent.  A big thank you to miKe
mcKoffee, Michael Dhabolt, Jim Mitchell and Angelo!
I've been using Saeco's Via Veneto at home for the past 10 days and
have actually had several great shots out of it.  I had no idea that
straight, black espresso could be sweet!  Espresso really gives you a
different profile of the coffee than drip, moka, or presspot.  No
really bad shots, but plenty of so-so shots.  And, already, have had a
fit of upgrade (or maybe acrossgrade) fever for a lever machine.
Things that I've learned:  only wipe down the frothing wand with a
damp cloth towel - scorched fingers are not fun; turn off the frothing
wand after priming the pump - where'd that puddle come from?; you can
overfill the portafilter - not a good thing to find out at 6:00 a.m.;
emptying the drip tray is a good habit to learn.
The Via Veneto has several positives that would recommend it for a
newbie:  fairly easy to operate, fairly forgiving of variations in
tamping and grind, great pump, heats up pretty quickly, great frothing
wand, great hot water from the frothing wand for Americanos or tea,
short recovery period between shots.
Several negatives about it:  its light weight makes putting in the
portafilter a full-body experience, odd sized portafilter doesn't work
with standard tampers, the pressurized portafilter, the crema enhancer
-- literally every shot is "crema", which makes crema relatively
useless as an indicator of shot quality -- but I've learned to read
the shot and have picked up some clues on which shot is better than
another.
For an entry-level machine, I think it's good (but I wouldn't pay more
than $100 total).
The automatic part of brewing is just lacking something for me,
though.  The personal involvement in the roasting of the beans
probably informs how I want to handle the rest of the coffee process. 
It just feels like giving away control over the brewed results after
pushing the button.  After hours of web research, doing some hands on
pulls, and talking with a few folks who own lever machines, a lever
machine might fit my style better than an automatic.  I'm hoping to
add a LaPavoni Europiccola to the equipment stash next week.  Using
the Europiccola and having the Via Veneto as a "backup" (with a manual
portafilter) for multiple shots may work best for me.
Well, it should work until the next wave of upgrade fever comes along.
 Isn't there a cure for this fever yet?  ;)
Brent
Roasting in an SC/TO
For all kinds of coffee

2) From: Jason Brooks
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Brent,
    If someone tells you, be sure and pass it along.  ;-)  I'm glad to
hear someone's description of espresso.  Makes me appreciate it all
the more.
    I'm fighting the upgrade bug now - my pretty-but-insufficient machine
is pulling some extremely hot shots.  I'm going to try and check it
this weekend with two thermometers because, frankly I wondering about
the one I've been using.  It's measured two shots over 210F, and a
blank at 225.  If I can't find a way to do an inverse temp surf,
she'll go.
Jason

3) From: Barry Luterman
I've only had my Silvia a few months now and am firmly hooked. I hardly ever 
brew coffee any more. It's Capos for my wife and shots and Americanos for 
me. I will probably develop upgrade fever but then I can't imagine improving 
on the quality of the shots I have been pulling. I never realized just how 
good it could be.

4) From: Jim Mitchell
Way cool Brent, sounds like you're having a good time - BTW, I am new to the 
list myself, and relatively new to home roasting.
The Peppina arrives Tuesday, the Briel goes away, and through a weird series 
of events a Simonelli Oscar is on the way also - so, one of our Pavoni's may 
come up for sale and will be offered here first - stay tuned...
Cheers
Jim

5) From: Mingles
I don't think you should jump straight to manual lever from a pressurized=
 
basket. It'd be quite the challenge in comparision.
 My Rancilio Nancy consistently runs too hot. Its thermostat is 110C and yo=
u 
just bleed steam to cool the boiler down somewhat. I'm accustomed to 
noticing what amount of steam output equals a cool enough shot.
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On 7/8/05, Brent - SC/TO Roasting  wrote:
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