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Topic: day one with the Aeropress (9 msgs / 283 lines)
1) From: Sandy Andina
I finally got one, and I think it's a winner.  Nothing to break, easy  
to pack, can be used for quasi-espresso or brewed coffee, easy  
cleanup. Not expensive, either.  This afternoon, I loaded a scoop of  
Uganda Bugisu (City+) into the grinder (SM+) set to espresso, ground  
it up and put it into the cylinder (after fitting the filter in  
place). Filled the piston with an espresso cup's worth of water from  
the steam valve, dribbled it in over the grounds, then poured the  
rest and stirred 10 sec. (Note: that paddle would also work nicely  
with a FP). Pushed down (took a bit of upper-body strength--that and  
grinding enough in my Zass Turkish can almost replace my morning trip  
to the motel gym when on the road). Mistake was following the  
manual's advice to brew into a glass cup to watch the process. Glass  
espresso cups are too narrow at the top--concentrated coffee oozed  
out onto the countertop. Quickly switched to a 6-oz.tulip cappa cup  
(Intelly's Black Cat cups). When reaching the end, there is a rush of  
air and the bottom of the downstroke is suddenly quite fast--so be  
careful. Removed the apparatus and was surprised to find a little  
ring of crema. Tasted it--not quite espresso, but very strong yet  
strikingly smooth--like pressed version but without the texture  
getting in the way.  Diluted 1"1 with water from the Livia's tap, and  
found it to be smooth, strong, clean and very flavorful--all notes  
came through loud and clear. Tonight, tried a mug's worth of Guat.  
Huehue decaf (FC). Forgot to use drip grind and ground it fine  
instead, which made the piston process very hard and frustrating,  
though it ultimately worked. This time I made it in a 10-oz mug.--5  
oz. coffee concentrate diluted 1:1 with hot Livia water. What I got  
was the FP version of Guat Huehue decaf turned up to "11;" all its  
notes amplified--bright, chocolate, salt--but with no sediment at all.
Sandy
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2) From: Scott Marquardt
OK, here's a challenge for anyone with an Aero. Sometimes one can learn
about a new device by doing things totally wrong. So try this: an
over-extraction. Do the grind, water temperature, etc. the same -- but leav=
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it sit for a minute. Or two. Or, heaven help you, three. Then press and
report the flavor.

3) From: Justin Marquez
On 2/24/06, Scott Marquardt  wrote:
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I had wondered about that, too.  After all - in the FP the coffee sits for
2-4 minutes. And, if I'm going to make 10-12 oz coffee, why should I use so
little water, a relatively large amount of fine grinds and give it total
extraction window of 30 seconds? It seems that you should get
underextraction using the directions from either Tom or Aeropress. Won't
that lend itself to bright coffee?  Why not for one mug, grind a little les=
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fine, add as much water as the thing can hold (almost 8 oz), steep for a
minute or two then press out and dilute to the full mug volume?  Would that
not be closer to FP, but sans sludge? I'll try that for the afternoon brew.
For this morning's test brew, I did it exactly the other way...
Right now I am drinking a mug from the aeropress done as follows - 2 level
scoops, ground fine, added water a few seconds off the boil up to the top o=
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the "blue 2 bar", stirred 10 sec, steeped 10 seconds, pressed out in about
20 secs.  Then diluted to a mug. This yielded a mug of right stong brew, bu=
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not the least bitter. In fact, it is good enough that I am taking this cup
black. (Oh yes - it is "just under 24 hr rested" Brazil Cerrado 2nd Place
coffee). This seems to accentuate the Aeropress effect. The strength covers
up some of the delicate stuff I expected from the bean - but then it is jus=
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short of 24 hrs rest, too, so it isn't really fully developed yet.
The obvious disadvantage to the method I just used is that it uses TWICE th=
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normal coffee load. You'd expect that cup to be ridiculously stong. It IS
stout, but not as much as you'd expect (i.e. - I think underextracted).
You'd expect it to be very bright, but it is not out of hand, probably due
to the cooler water temp.
Flavors from this mug? "Strong yet mild" is the feeling I get at first sip.
Flavor is what I call balanced - there is good body and mouthfeel, but not
cloying on the tongue. There are some vague hints of the chocolate and some
of the fruit and tobacco in the finish.  The after effect is very nice. Tak=
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a sip, enjoy that, sit a spell and enjoy that, too.  Nice now that the mug
has cooled considerably, too.
Tom is certainly right to rail against calling the AeroPress concentrate
"espresso".  The flavor of the conc is not like a good espresso shot at all=
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I tried it before dilution, but wasn't impressed with it like that. What is
surprising is that it seems to get better when diluted.
We also have a water dispenser that has hot and cold valves on it.  I teste=
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the hot water temp a few months back and I think it was 185 F. I have alway=
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nuked that hot water for 30 secs or so for the SG 1-cup. Maybe next week
I'll try using that water straight out of the valve to extract with and see
how that result seems. (Lazy as I am, it'd be nice not to have to nuke it
and then wait for it to cool.)
Can't hardly wait until this bean rests some more! I am taking them to the
house for the weekend brews along with the Kenya Gethumbwini that I roasted
just before I did the Brazil beans.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)http://www.justinandlinda.com

4) From: Justin Marquez
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Well, I just made a mug with the Aeropress treating it exactly like a 1-cup
FP, but only steeping for one minute (with frequent mixing). I used some
Guat beans brought from the house which were roasted a week ago and which I
used for this morning's drip pot at the house.
I filled the mug with hot water from the dispenser, transferred it to a foa=
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cup and nuked it for 30 secs. I had ground one level scoop of the beans as =
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would for the FP or the SG 1-c (i.e. - sorta chunky) and loaded them.
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of it just fit with a little room to spare.. I stirred for a minute. During
that time about 1/4th of the liquid leaked out into my waiting mug. I
pressed out the balance so that the total time was close to a minute.
The resulting black coffee was not such that I wanted to drink it black. It
had a tiny bit of bitterness to it. (Understand, I don't drink many coffees
black.) So, I added my usual cream and sugar and the result was very nice
mug with flavor notes similar to what I get from the drip pot at home with
this bean, but maybe a little more pronounced in this mug.  I think the
Aeropress  functions just like a very clean FP when used in this fashion.
Next I will try using the official Aeropress method for one scoop (i.e.,
fine grind, cooler water, make conc and dilute to normal strength) with thi=
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same humble bean.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)http://www.justinandlinda.com

5) From: Justin Marquez
On 2/24/06, Justin Marquez  wrote:
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Did that just now. I don't have a temp measurement on the water, but it is
designed for tea brewing temps, which AeroPress says is optimal.  I did not
zap it any. 1 scoop, ground pretty fine, added water to the blue "1" circle=
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Well I may have overshot a tiny bit, but with the bloom it was hard to
decide exactly where the actual water level was. But it was as close as I
could get. Stirred for 10, waited 10, pressed for 10.  Dilute conc to a ful=
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mug.
Tasted it black. Surprised - I liked it enough that I would consider
drinking it that way.  I drank a bit black. The flavor notes were as
pronouced as before, but no bitterness. Very "smooth" to the taste. I added
cream and sugar and am presently enjoying it that way, too.
Safe Journeys and Sweet Music
Justin Marquez (Snyder, TX)http://www.justinandlinda.com

6) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
I found the solution for that after I'd had the AeroPress for a few days 
- the piston has the same markings on it, so you can pour water to the 
measure you want into the piston (that's where I put my instant-read 
thermometer) and then pour that into the brewing tube.
Dave S.
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7) From: Scott Marquardt
I'd say the reason you don't get a brighter brew with the shorter time is
the cooler temp. Low temperatures don't just mean slower extraction, they
mean different extraction. The acidity that lends brightness just won't com=
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out -- at least not quickly -- at lower temperature. And by the time you
might leech some of it out, you may also have over-extracted from a
standpoint of *other* solutes.
The use of lower temperatures -- even if you're going higher than Alan
recommends to, say, 180 or a bit more -- really changes things so much that
a lot of experimenting is called for. Cooler brewing makes for slower BUT
DIFFERENT extraction. That's important, meaning that you can't just prolong
the extraction and expect to get what you'd get on a shorter extraction wit=
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195 degree water.
Also, Alan happily acknowledges under-extraction as a key aspect of the
Aero. That's a datum Aero users need to integrate with their thinking about
coffee if they decide they like the brew.
As an aside, I really do find that Aero brew is good all the way down to
room temperature with several beans. Interesting.
- Scott
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8) From: Scott Marquardt
Instant-read thermometer? Tell me more!

9) From: Maryann & Dave Schellenberg
Safeway sells them here for about $20.
It has a digital display, and quite a thin probe.
If you want to know what temp water you're adding to the grind, put 
thermometer into piston, add water, and mix.
Dave S.
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