From: homeroast-admin
[mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of rnkyle
	Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 4:10 PM
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	WOW now that is one smart women, in our remodeling I was thrown
completely out of the remodeled kitchen, but gained a coffee bar on one wall
of the dinning room. My concern is with the plumbed in S-1 is a possible
solenoid failure and water pouring out on 8,000 dollars worth of hard wood
floors. 
	I'm considering going back to a reservoir instead of direct
plumbing.. Have not decided which way to go. 
	RK
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Doesn't the S1 use electronic boiler control rather than pstats? Don't know
what solenoid failure you're referring to that would cause a flood.
Regardless anything can fail. If it's a major concern why not just put in a
needle valve in the line and turn off the water when S1 not in use? The
reality is don't hear of pstat failing that often yet it is a possibility,
and they do fail and sometimes in the stuck heating position. Of course I've
heard of brake lines rupturing or brake master cylinder failing which could
and has caused deaths, yet I continue to drive. Guess it'a matter of risk
management and what's acceptable and what isn't. Though I've thought about
PID'ing the Bric' for the sole purpose of not having a pstat since a PID and
SSR would be very very highly unlikely to fail in such a way as to have the
heater on all the time. An added bonus would be no more pstat "click";-)
Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee
URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before.

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what solenoid failure you're referring to that would cause a flood.
Yes it does have electronic boiler controll.
but it also has a solonoid valve on the hot water dispensor.
I once could not get it to turn off I had to cut the water off at the 
filter.
I found a piece of brass shaving  in the valve from the machining at the 
factory, I removed it and reassemble the solonoid valve and have not had a 
problem since, but the thought of the solonoid valve sticking open and the 
machine needing positive pressure for the rotary pumb to operate correctly 
and once reading in a forum that a S1 owner came home to a very wet kitchen 
just put a fright in me.
I do have two cut offs in my water line one before the filter and one after 
the pressure regulator, and yes I could cut it off when I go out. I need to 
think some more.
Mabey its just recent talk and nice shiny stainless that has me going.
Yeah I know I'm crazy but thats just me.:O)
RK

On 7/20/06, rnkyle  wrote:
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Ron, stay crazy...keep thinking about how much you love your hard wood
floor...and how greatful you'd be to get rid of that risky, dangerous,
plumbed-in S1 ready to unleash .5 gallons per minute for gosh knows how
long.  Just to be a pal, I'm standing by with my checkbook...
 :-)
Craig in Marin (with a slate floor, which wouldn't mind an occassional bath
from an S1)

Wineries have tasting rooms...  I wonder if Ron isn't due for a slate floor
tasting room, as a protective service to his dear wife (can you say "love"
?)
Just trying to help...
Brett
On 7/21/06, Craig Wichner  wrote:
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Regards,
Brett Mason
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