Woody DeCasere wrote: 'Is true kona that different from Kauai??' Yes. The Kona districts are on the Big Island which is volcanically very active. About 1/4 of the entire island has been resurfaced with new lava flows just since the time of European contact [1778]. Kauai is one of the oldest islands in the Hawaiian island chain. Volcanos there have been extinct for millions of years. Soils derived from recent volcanism are quite different from very aged volcanic soils. This could be one of the many factors that cause the coffees from the two locations to differ. Island chains such as Hawaii which are formed by movement of an ocean tectonic plate over a stationary mantle hot spot tend to have decreasing elevations as you more along the island chain away from the hot spot since those further away are older and have had more time elapse to both erode and sink back into the ocean by depressing the ocean plate under there own weight. The high point in Kauai is around 5000' as compared to the Big Island which has several summits over 13000'. Larry Engish wrote: 'The Ka'u story is interesting - wonder what varieties they are growing? Also what elevation? My (flawed) memory of the Big Island is that Ka'u is mostly lava and very windy - maybe the areas Douglas visited are cozied up to South Kona, i.e. just E or SE of that district ???' Larry: South and Southeast. The lower elevations of Ka'u can in fact be very windy. The area down near Southpoint [the Sourthern most point in the US] is the location of most of the wind turbines on the Big Island. The area with the coffee that I looked at was not very windy at all. It was sandwiched between two ridges that must have afforded protection. The elevation was only about 2200' [730m]. This area is shown on maps as 'Wood Valley'. Three or four varieties were pointed out to me. I remember that some was derived from Guatemalan sources and there was a yellow maturing variety of some sort. There was also one called Ka'u Special that is said to have been developed by the U of H for the Ka'u conditions. I have since read Tom's discussion of Hawaiian coffee on the SM website where he does mention Ka'u coffee in passing "And in the districts of Kau and Hilo on the big island, they are trying to produce coffee." Link to his discussion here: http://www.sweetmarias.com/hawaii_kona_coffeeinfo.htm |
Coffee is also grown on the Hamakua coast of the Big Island -- that is the northern side of the island where the coastline runs in a generally NW-SE orientation. I have had green coffee from Hamakua that was pretty good, but not outstanding. Maybe over time they will figure out the "terroir" and the coffee will improve. --- Douglas Strait wrote: <Snip>http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings<Snip>">http://www.sweetmarias.com/hawaii_kona_coffeeinfo.htm<Snip>http://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast<Snip>http://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html#personalsettings<Snip> Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
Any more details on Hamakua coffee, Andy? We plan to be on the Big Island next April/May and will be visiting Mountain Thunder (on Koloka Rd, North Kona) but would be interested in other spots (other than the usual ones around Captain Cook etc.). On Kauai - the coffee there is grown at very low elevations, and I don't know of any plans for higher elevation farms. IMHO - Kauai coffee sells because it's Hawaii, not because it is anything special. Back to the Big Island - maybe we (this list) should put together a FAQ on visiting coffee people there, plus recommended eating spots (don't miss Keei Cafe in Captain Cook!). Just a thought ... Larry On 7/22/06, Andy Thomas wrote: <Snip> |
Most of the Kauai coffee is huge agribusiness and there is little personal care that goes into the process. Trees are tortured with a machine picker and green and ripe beans are stripped from the trees, to be sorted out at the mill. I'll take the small Kona farmer and small mill operators with personal pride and integrity for their beans any day. ********************* Ed Needham® "to absurdity and beyond!" ed at homeroaster dot com (include [FRIEND] in subject line to get through my SPAM filters) ********************* |