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Okay, this is my second shot with the SCTO, the first time i used it I =
was skiddish and stopped the roasting too early and didn't have a good =
therm (was using a digital candy stick that only went to 450F - i DON'T =
recommend that). I think it ended up around City+. My wife and I still =
drank it and was okay, but a little underdone - not what we were =
shooting for.
 
This time I bought the digital therm from SM. I was also having trouble =
getting an even roast so I swapped out the copper arms in the SCTO for =
some barrier strips - they seem to do a better job stirring then the =
arms did.  I also created a chaff shoot which works great!
 
Last night I roasted some Sumatra Classic Mandlehing and overshot the =
roast I was shooting for - still getting used to it. Thankfully the =
coffee still tastes good - tastes DARK. :)
 
Even though the temp on my digital therm was showing around 430F, it =
quickly entered the rolling second crack (which I hadn't expected) =
followed by some serious smoke. I got it out as quick as I could, but =
I'm not used to the temp readings inside yet. I'm guessing the internal =
bean temp was closer to 450F, and only took around 8 min 30 seconds.
 
I _think_ it's around a French roast(?) but would like a second (third, =
etc) opinion since I'm still pretty green at this:http://www.fullofflavor.net/Roasting%20Sumatra%20Classic%20Mandlehing/ 
Thoughts?
 
later,
jason

On 7/22/06, Jason D. Montgomery  wrote:
<Snip>
I did that the first time with my SC/TO also.  Funny how that happens, isn't
it?  For me I wasn't ready for the smoke and it scared me off.  (The smoke
on the iRoast2 is much more diffuse)
Even though the temp on my digital therm was showing around 430F, it quickly
<Snip>
That would definitely be FR on an iRoast2.  I get the sense drum/SCTO roasts
are a tad darker but that's at least Vienna I think.  I've not been brave
enough to let mine get that dark.  SCM is probably a decent choice for a
dark roast like that though, at least.  To me there are alot of distinct
sumatra flavors that survive a dark roast.  That's why my favorite *$ coffee
back when I drank it was a Sumatra, I think.
Thoughts?
<Snip>
I think I'll try a French Roast with some Sumatra I have sitting about and
see how it goes.
Also, what I do to try to flatten the profile is pulse the turbo oven once
first crack is rolling.  About 20% duty cycle seems to be about right.  4-6
seconds on, 1 second off.  Something like that keeps the fan going, is less
drastic than removing the top, and seems to extend the roast a bit.  With
the SC element disconnected, my roasts are typically in the 14-17 minute
range.  I could probably shorten that by preheating the unit a little.
-- 
Steven Hay
hay.steve -AT- gmail.com
Barry Paradox: Consider k to be the greatest element of the set of natural
numbers whose description require maximum of 50 words: "(k+1) is a natural
number which requires more than 50 words to describe it."

Vienna...
Slow it down a little, lower heat, get less oil, aim for the medium-dark
brown (not shiny)...
Brett
On 7/22/06, Steve Hay  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
Regards,
Brett Mason
HomeRoast
   Zassman

<Snip>
happens, isn't it?  For me I wasn't ready for 
<Snip>
more diffuse)  
  
Yea - the small popcorn popper I was using before had very little smoke =
so when it started rolling out of the SCTO it suprised me as well.
 
<Snip>
roasts are a tad darker but that's at 
<Snip>
that dark.  SCM is probably a decent choice 
<Snip>
distinct sumatra flavors that survive a dark 
<Snip>
Sumatra, I think.  
 
Yea, oddly my wife and stopped at starbucks yesterday - she wanted some =
iced tea and I already had my fill of coffee that morning at home and I =
hadn't planned on ordering anything there. Turned out they were brewing =
Sumatra - the same stuff I just had just roasted. So I ordered a Short =
and decided to do a taste test. Wouldn't you know it, their's must have =
been a darker roast (yea, yea - suprise, suprise). :)  It was decent, =
but the home roast is just better - fresher and a bit lighter roast.
 
<Snip>
about and see how it goes.
<Snip>
once first crack is rolling.  About 20% duty 
<Snip>
Something like that keeps the fan going, is less 
<Snip>
With the SC element disconnected, my 
<Snip>
shorten that by preheating the unit a little. 
 
Ahh, interesting. I'll have to try roasting while pulsing the TO.
 
thanks!
 
later,
jason
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On 7/22/06, Jason D. Montgomery  wrote:
<Snip>
-- 
"When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the
Wichita WurliTzer

"Thoughts?"
Yes- I'm clumsy with buttons among other things.
For starters, with the hot hot poppers, I quickly realized the roast could
take off like a skyrocket. About the time my low voltage, delayed AGC brain
decided "This would be a good stage to stop the roast," it had already
shifted gears and was going supercritical!
I decided I needed a set of Truck Brakes- Air Brakes. I decided that when I
saw a pristine furnace blower- the type with the split capacitor motor in
the middle of the squirrel cage- headed for a metal dumpster at the feed
store. $2.00 diverted it my way! I could have gotten the whole 125,000 BTUH
gas furnace and several others like it, for cheap- but no. My Dummheit.
With this blower on its side, motor in one venturi for cooling pointed down,
there's a big open intake venturi pointing up. Perfect for a large screen
mesh colander. I dump a smoking, crackling popper roast into it with the
blower running. In five seconds, you couldn't tell the beans were ever warm-
they're cold to the touch. Where the roast was, is where it stopped!
An easy roast with the heat gun/ Kitchen Aid mixer bowl is 400g (~14oz). It
usually fills a 1 quart fruit jar brim full after I'm done. With this size
roast and 2nd Crack just starting to roll, the beans stop roasting almost as
fast as I pour them into the colander with the blower running. In 5 - 10
seconds, they're barely warm to the touch. After 30 seconds, they've been at
ambient for a while.
900g (2#) was more work to get past 1st Crack- a little hard to handle with
the Wagner heat gun. After 20 minutes, the "Panama Boquette Berlina" (eBay)
was just getting a few snaps of 2nd.
But WHOOSH! = Cold to the touch in 30 seconds. 2# is a gimme to cool this
way.
Scrounge around a metal salvage yard for awhile. You can build a Magnum roaster
with the stuff you find.
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
 "A camel makes
an elephant feel like a jet plane." - - Jackie Kennedy

Oooo, you got any pictures?
From: homeroast-admin on behalf of =
raymanowen
Sent: Sun 7/23/2006 8:37 PM
To: homeroast
Subject: Re: +name that roast
"Thoughts?"
Yes- I'm clumsy with buttons among other things.
For starters, with the hot hot poppers, I quickly realized the roast =
could take off like a skyrocket. About the time my low voltage, delayed =
AGC brain decided "This would be a good stage to stop the roast," it had =
already shifted gears and was going supercritical! 
I decided I needed a set of Truck Brakes- Air Brakes. I decided that =
when I saw a pristine furnace blower- the type with the split capacitor =
motor in the middle of the squirrel cage- headed for a metal dumpster at =
the feed store. $2.00 diverted it my way! I could have gotten the whole =
125,000 BTUH gas furnace and several others like it, for cheap- but no. =
My Dummheit. 
With this blower on its side, motor in one venturi for cooling pointed =
down, there's a big open intake venturi pointing up. Perfect for a large =
screen mesh colander. I dump a smoking, crackling popper roast into it =
with the blower running. In five seconds, you couldn't tell the beans =
were ever warm- they're cold to the touch. Where the roast was, is where =
it stopped! 
An easy roast with the heat gun/ Kitchen Aid mixer bowl is 400g (~14oz). =
It usually fills a 1 quart fruit jar brim full after I'm done. With this =
size roast and 2nd Crack just starting to roll, the beans stop roasting =
almost as fast as I pour them into the colander with the blower running. =
In 5 - 10 seconds, they're barely warm to the touch. After 30 seconds, =
they've been at ambient for a while. 
900g (2#) was more work to get past 1st Crack- a little hard to handle =
with the Wagner heat gun. After 20 minutes, the "Panama Boquette =
Berlina" (eBay) was just getting a few snaps of 2nd. 
But WHOOSH! = Cold to the touch in 30 seconds. 2# is a gimme to cool =
this way.
Scrounge around a metal salvage yard for awhile. You can build a Magnum =
roaster with the stuff you find. 
Cheers -RayO, aka Opa!
 "A camel =
makes an elephant feel like a jet plane." - - Jackie Kennedy 
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