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"Any reccomendations?" Just two recommendations, since I have never done a mod to an espresso machine. I'm really not sure how I'd tune one in the first place, but for the mechanics of the pumps and plumbing, it's pretty straightforward. You will want to seal the male pipe threads with Teflon tape for a couple of layers. Pipe threads are tapered. Do Not put the tape anywhere except male pipe threads. These are not vacuum cleaner pumps. They need to be "charged," or kept in prime all the time they're spinning. They can pump maybe 150 psi, but the intake should never be above the water level in the reservoir. Water must flow easily into the pump intake. No small diameter tubing or sharp bends or flexible tubing that can kink. Supply has to exceed demand or you could cavitate the pump and wreck it. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! An E61 is somewhere on the event horizon- I hope On 7/22/06, Obrien, Haskell W. wrote: <Snip> -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Wichita WurliTzer |
I'd suggest asking the question on the Home-barista.com forum. I know there are a number of people there that have done vibe to rotary conversions. Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htmUltimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. <Snip> |
Will, <Snip> I am not familiar with the Giotto. I did a rotary Procon upgrade to my Astoria a while back, it was a fairly straight forward modification. I also upgraded to a duplex pressure gauge that is, for me, preferrable to having to use a PF pressure gauge - a little more sweat equity but about the same or slightly less cost. I can attempt to answer any questions about the modifications you may have. Contact me off-list. Mike (just plain) |