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Topic: Espresso SO vs Blends (20 msgs / 350 lines)
1) From: Jacobean
Does anyone else find that Single Origin (SO) roasts used for espresso are so 
much more interesting than blends? I've found that for my tastes even the 
blends from Sweet Marias (Italian Classic, Monkey) are much less interesting 
and frankly less 'tasty' than a nice SO.
If anyone has any suggestions, let me know. I really like a Nicaraguan taken 
to Full City or past to fit my palate.
Jacobean
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2) From: Akemi Kawano
 
I am a novice roaster and got a sampler pack with my Precision Roaster.  
I love the Blue de Brasil as a SO espresso slightly past Full City.  The 
Nicaraguan was in the pack too but I haven't gotten around to trying it 
yet.
On 2001.12.13, at 10:52, Jacobean wrote:
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3) From: Michael Allen Smith
Tom's cupping review leads me to believe that Indian Plantation A 
-Pearl Mountain Estate would be an ideal SO espresso.  I need to let 
mine rest 2 days then I'll give it a try.http://sweetmarias.com/coffee.asia.india.html#indian.pearl.mtnCIEB until then - mas
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4) From: John Roche
on 12/13/01 10:52 AM, Jacobean at bergonia wrote:
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I've found just the opposite. SO's can be good, but a good blend can be
really great. 
john
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5) From: Jacobean
John,
Do you have any suggestions on the makeup of your own, or 'commercially' 
available blends? Maybe I'm just missing the right combo.
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6) From: Michael Allen Smith
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Tom has an excellent article on blending at:http://www.sweetmarias.com/blending.htmlThe espresso ideas are half way down the page.
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7) From: Steven Tock
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I agree that SO coffees make better espresso than blends. While 
I have several favorite SO coffees for espresso, I have found 
only one blend that suits my taste.
Steve
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8) From: jewldee
Just curious, what are some of the favorites (SO & blend) on this list?
J.D.
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several favorite SO coffees for >>espresso, I have found only one blend that
suits my >>taste.
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9) From: Timothy A Reed
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 15:01:13 -0500 "jewldee"  writes:
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The blends I've played with and liked are:
Moka-Java (no, really), though a bit proportionally altered, say 75% Java
and 25% Yemen Raimi
30% Colombia, 30% Panama, 30% Java, 10% Harrar (or Ghimbi)
33.3% Colombia, 33.3% Panama, 33.3% Java
Oddly enough, I'm not a big fan of Java as a SO coffee (press or
espresso), though Sulawesi isn't bad.
-Tim
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10) From: Steven Tock
One of my favorite SO coffees for espresso is Ethiopian 
Ghimbi. 
Steve 
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11) From: John - Wandering Texas
almost any Brazilian for espresso - melange of CR Hacienda La Minita for
pure pleasure.

12) From: Kevin Nealon
Hi List,
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The Zimbabwe AA is my favorite, but I make a blend from a SO by making one
batch that that goes well into second crack and another batch the I stop
well before second crack, then I mix the two batches 50/50.
The Zimba AA tastes much the same only more so. A real slap up-side the
palate.
Kevin
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13) From: Rev Mark Gilstrap
 
At 12:46 PM 12/14/01 -0800, you wrote:
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Then you might like
33:33:33  Sumatran : Mexican : Guatemalan Antigua
all light City
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14) From: Timothy A Reed
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:29:44 -0600 Rev Mark Gilstrap
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I don't know that I've ever had a light-city roasted espresso.  Wouldn't
that be... um... barely palateable?  I might try something like that for
my press, though.  I'm definately going to get some Oaxaca on my next
order. :)
-Tim
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15) From: Gary Zimmerman
 
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No!  You must try - at least try - a lighter roast for espresso.  Very 
different from "typical" espresso, but still quite good.  As long as the 
light roast isn't so light it's sour or bitter.  You have to choose the 
right variety that will take a lighter roast, but even say a city roast 
tastes good out of an espresso maker.  I'm not a frequent espresso maker at 
all, but while I love standard espresso (I used to like Graffaeo's from San 
Francisco best - never tried Tom's classic Italian blend), I was surprised 
at the flavor the first time I tried one of my home roasts, that was only a 
city roast.  yum!
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16) From: Timothy A Reed
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:55:40 -0800 Gary Zimmerman 
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I'll see... do you have any specific suggestions as to bean or blend?  I
did try a FC-ish Guat Atitilan once, and it was on the sour side... (and
I love that particular roast of that coffee in my press).
-Tim
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17) From: David M. Lewis
 
At 3:01 PM -0500 12/14/01, jewldee wrote:
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For espresso, I personally love Malabar Gold and Moka Kadir as 
blends, and the Aged Sumatran '98 as S.O.
	David
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18) From: Steve
That's something I have been trying to figure out - the ratio between
roasters and amount of beans.
I usually roast 20-30 seconds into second crack with my Fresh Roast, about 1
3/4 oz of green.
This gives me a pretty dark, oily roast. Total time is about 3:50 to 4:00
minutes. The temp, by the way, is about 425. I never know exactly because
the darn thermometer never stays calibrated.
With my Poppery I take it about 2 minutes into second crack to get the same
look. Total time can be 10 to 12 minutes for 4 oz of green.
I haven't picked up a Whirley pop yet but I expect it will be different
since it's not an air popper and the quantity could be up to a pound.
Anyone owned all three and figured out any formulas to use to keep
consistency between them?
steve
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19) From: Steve
I buy 20#s of Sulawesi Toraja when I'm about out and 5#s each of Aged
Sumatra, Yemen Mohka Mattari, and Brazil Cerrado. All dark roasting beans. I
roast them all separate. When it comes time to brew I can either enjoy one
or for my blend I usually mix Sulawesi with an equal amount of one of the
other three.
I do buy other beans but I always keep these four in stock. My favorite
decaf is Sumatra which I find I can roast right before I brew. It's too hard
to predict when I will need it so I can't roast ahead. But it makes an
incredible cup to enjoy in the evening especially with guests AND you have a
little roasting aroma to add to the enjoyment.
steve

20) From: Tom & Maria
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I like to add 20% City roast to a blend some times for my espresso. 
In fact, I added about this amount of a Kenya last week and it really 
spiced up the cup. Playing around with this kind of blending is fun 
and makes me realize I can be a bit of a snob: if someone had told me 
they use 20% med. roast Kenya in an espresso blend I would have 
thought they were nuts. As always, I learn more about coffee by 
simply trying things and not thinking of what will or will not be 
possible in advance. Now that Yirgacheffe/Monsooned Malabar blend 
that someone was raving about a long time back, THAT is a bit too out 
there for me.... Tom
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