Would a 6A 250v fuse offer equivalent protection as a 12A 125v? (was going to mark message OT but relates to roaster control unit design...) MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee Dual Variable Transformer Rosto Roasting Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin' homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
I believe that is correct. Its a wattage/heating thing, and both are the same in those terms. Ben Mike McGinness wrote: <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
No. You need a 12A 250V fuse. It is common to use fuses rated as higher voltages, but they must maintain the same amps. dan <Snip> design...) <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Got two different answers so did what I could/should have done in the first place, web search and research it! Dan is correct, Ben (& I) were wrong. Glad I checked. The fuse voltage rating is: "The ability of the fuse to quickly extinguish the arc after the fuse element melts and the maximum voltage that cannot jump across the gap of the fuse after the fuse opens." The current rating is: "The amount of current the fuse will allow without opening." So yes higher voltage rating is fine and actually better, but still using the same current (A) rating. MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee Roaster control designer in training From: "Dan Bollinger" <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Mike wrote: <Snip> Nope. Just like the PIV rating on the diode, the voltage rating on a fuse is like the speed rating on a tire. As long as you have enough, you're ok. Specifically, the voltage rating on a fuse is pretty much determined by its length. The longer the fuse, the higher the voltage rating. -- Rick homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Ben wrote: <Snip> BZZZZT! Thank you for playing, but... :-) The voltage rating on a fuse is a safety factor -- if the fuse were very short and the applied voltage very high, then the voltage could arc across the contacts even after the fuse burned out. So to get a higher voltage rating, they make the fuses longer so that the (same) voltage can't arc across. -- Rick homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Mike: <Snip> No . . . Dan got it right. A fuse (fusible link) is a current driven device . .. . a resistor that melts (and opens the circuit) if it gets too hot. It gets hot because of the power dissipated in it, and that power is determined P=I^2R, where R is the resistance of the fuse itself. There is, ultimately, a voltage involved, but that's the voltage that developes across the fuse when current flows, and it's in millivolts . . . unrelated to the supply voltage in the protected circuit. As to why one fuse would be "rated" 125V and another 250V, I have not a clue . . . a 6A fuse should fail if the current exceeds 6A, regardless. Deward homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
learn something new every day. And this time it evens makes sense. Rick Farris wrote: <Snip> |
I wasn't too worried about you Mike, the worst thing that would have happened is that you'd have to take a trip to the hardware store to replace the 6A fuse you blew! :) Dan <Snip> first <Snip> higher <Snip> homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
<Snip> dunno, perhaps because of the amount of insulation or to prevent arcing. Dan homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
From: "Dan Bollinger" <Snip> Higher voltage rating higher arc protection after fuse blown from my research... MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee Dual Variable Transformer Rosto Roasting Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin' homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Mike wrote: <Snip> But don't forget that the fuses will be physically different sizes, so if you already have the fuseholder, make sure the fuse you select will fit. -- Rick homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
From: "Rick Farris" <Snip> You state the obvious. (which can often be over looked of course:-) But fuse length and diameter aren't the only factors in determining it's rating. Many same physical size fuses have different ratings, the internals be different of course. But also make sure the fuse holder is current rated for the fuse! (the first holder I picked up was rated 10A, took it back for a 30A...) You can put a 15A fuse in a 10A rated panel mount fuse holder no problem. Putting the fuse in no problem that is, potentially running the holder at 50% greater than rated could definitely cause a heat problem! MM;-) aka Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee Dual Variable Transformer Rosto Roasting Rocky grindin' - Miss Silvia brewin' homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Dan: <Snip> Yep . . . as per Mike's search that seems to be the answer. I'm so accustomed to the 3AG package (no arc suppression problem there, that I can see, at any "reasonable" voltage anyway) that I didn't even consider the possibility of a sustained arc (in a shorter package?). Shoulda thought of it, though . . . arc suppression is a problem at power (distribution) line voltages both with switches and fault interrupters. Just wasn't keeping the old noggen open enough . . . (must be getting old ). Probably even knew the answer once upon a time . . . that's the worst part . . . Deward homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Yup, as stated previously by someone, the voltage rating is max voltage that can be felt by a blown fuse before it starts to arc, thereby rendering the fuse worthless as a fuse. |