Carolee< Thanks for asking the question. I am still having trouble with getting a perfect decaf. ginny |
Thanks Les, I have the Africn and will order some Donkey. Perhaps I am still not roasting the beans enough. For me it is harder to sight roast decaf. ginny |
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which one, I am not a decaf person but my family is... ginny |
Aaron: It does ac different. I don't think I have yet to roast a decen batch. I don't drink it but a couple of friends do, they like it but it did not taste exceptional to me. ginny good luck |
Just ordered some of SM's new "Ethiopian MC decaf Yirgacheffe." Boy, those beans are DARK!! But for their size, they already look like a Full City roast. |
Tell us about them...I bought in for 5# today. They "read" fabulous. I don't drink decaf, but my better half does. Mike Just ordered some of SM's new "Ethiopian MC decaf Yirgacheffe." Boy, those beans are DARK!! But for their size, they already look like a Full City roast. |
My parents and inlaws are decaf drinkers - let me know the results. I'm under the impression that roasting decaf is harder than standard because they roast faster. I've always stayed away from the stuff - being a programmer, I gotta have my juice. But for the sake of my relatives, I'd consider getting some if I were brave enough to try and roast it... Mike Michael Rochman wrote: <Snip> |
Mike, shall do. We expect the coffee to be fabulous. Thanks, Mike My parents and inlaws are decaf drinkers - let me know the results. I'm under the impression that roasting decaf is harder than standard because they roast faster. I've always stayed away from the stuff - being a programmer, I gotta have my juice. But for the sake of my relatives, I'd consider getting some if I were brave enough to try and roast it... |
On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:37:25 -0600, Michael Vanecek wrote: <Snip> I just got some last week for my mother who only drinks decaf and she *LOVED* it. My wife and I also enjoyed it although we never usually drink decaf. It has a rich full flavor and it has convinced my mother to get rid of her instant decaf and start grinding her own, instead. (Of course, she'll let me roast it for her.) The raw beans are very small, but they expanded greatly once roasted and I found they roasted a bit more quickly than most of the other beans I roast. I just took it though the first crack and then cooled it down. Tom picked out a real winner in this coffee and I'll soon be ordering more. Ralph Cohen |
On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 23:37:25 -0600, Michael Vanecek wrote: <Snip> I just got some last week for my mother who only drinks decaf and she *LOVED* it. My wife and I also enjoyed it although we never usually drink decaf. It has a rich full flavor and it has convinced my mother to get rid of her instant decaf and start grinding her own, instead. (Of course, she'll let me roast it for her.) The raw beans are very small, but they expanded greatly once roasted and I found they roasted a bit more quickly than most of the other beans I roast. I just took it though the first crack and then cooled it down. Tom picked out a real winner in this coffee and I'll soon be ordering more. Ralph Cohen |
Paul asked about decafs. I drink a fair amount of decaf. Among my recent favorites are Yirgacheffe MC that you mentiond, Brazil Santos SWP, and Mexican Esmaralda. I roast all 3 a ways into second crack. (I do keep notes, but being new at this I haven't got a grip on all the variables yet. Most coffees are fairly forgiving of variations of roast, in my opinion.) I drink mostly espresso, and the Santos is especially good for that, either straight-up or in a decaf or low-caf blend. Esmaralda makes really good drip coffee and Yirg MC is fine any way you do it. I'm sure there are other great decafs. I hope I live long enough to try them all. Free e-mail! you A service of www.WallaWallaGuide.com homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
I have been told that green decaf beans (especially water processed) have a VERY short shelf life Cf. non-decaf beans. Others have experience with this. homeroast mailing listhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast |
Seems the List Server has been drinking decaf again today... I can see posts in the archives that don't show up for hours! Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffee URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc.http://mdmint.home.comcast.net/coffee/Rosto_mod.htm |
On Oct 24, 2004, at 3:02am, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> If they make it to the archives, it's not likely the list server on decaf, but rather, some other relay between the list server and you. John Blumel |
It seems the server has been OK, but maybe another relay in between. = Maybe something was affected by the rains and/or snow we had in northern = Calif. last week. Internet at response at home and work has been sluggish. On Tues. or Wed. I posted messages maybe 5-10 minutes apart. One showed = up right away, the other one didn't show up for several hours. Then again, maybe a few of the www hamsters decided to take a vacation . = . . . Brent Roastin' in a PII for a drip brew <Snip> |
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. New to roasting and still trying to find time/temps that produce a good = decaf, also bean recommendations. Using the iroast and have used the = presets and well as my own with a variety of beans - results all too = "thin", lacking character!! Carolee |
Ginny, You tried the Donkey blend? I find that it is good as a vac pot and espresso. The African Highland blend is good, and the Mexican decafs seem to always come through for me. The others I have tried just have not matched up very well. I tend to roast them a bit darker, a couple of snaps into second crack for normal brew or for a darker roast 10 sec. into a full second crack. Les On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 06:41:48 -0800 (GMT-08:00), ginny wrote: <Snip> |
You are right Ginny, they are harder to roast. My suggestion is to trust the profiles you have developed for your roasters. I have found that they do look darker than they really are. What is your profile for a city roast? Do the same profile with the decaf. It will look like full city, but taste like a city roast. Les On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:00:44 -0800 (GMT-08:00), ginny wrote: <Snip> |
Ginny, It is under "Sweet Maria's Blends" not under decaf. It is the second one down. Les On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 07:07:30 -0800 (GMT-08:00), ginny wrote: <Snip> |
Hi Carol, I assume you are roasting for espresso. Correct? Scan Tom's DC offerings, paying attention to his "body/mouthfeel" ratings. Donkey Blend is nice, but Komodo blend is more to my taste (I add about 20% bright Yirg or Kenya--a separate roast). The Brazil Mogiana DC ----rated at "5"---(I haven't tried it, but it's on my "next" list) looks like a good DC blend prospect. And I'm also partial to Sumatra and Sulewesi. A good, heavy body "base" with some brighter accents should help whatever brewing and roasting suggestions you get here. Marty On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:36:40 -0500, Carol wrote: <Snip> |
On Feb 15, 2005, at 12:55pm, HeatGunRoast heatgunroast wrote: <Snip> You don't say what level you are roasting to but roasting too dark can roast the body out of a coffee. On the other hand, if you are new to roasting, it might take a while for your palate to adjust fresh coffee. Also, brewing method can affect body. John Blumel |
I love the Ethiopian WP Decaf (DP Sidamo), just love it at Full City. Dave E |
Recently I had an absolutely fabulous Panamanian decaf which I was roasting to city - City + (about 435 degrees in around 10 minutes). Right now I am working on a Guatamalan Antigua that might be just as good or better. Only it is noticably spicier, somthing i didn't notice at all in th last Guatamalan beans I had. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. |
You haven't tried the new water process method -- truly stunning as Tom's reviews indicate. |
In a message dated 2/15/2005 2:25:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, badabingbadabean writes: which one, I am not a decaf person but my family is... ginny Ethiopian WP Decaf; Sulawesi, and those that have the phrase: "WP Decaf," which is different than Swiss Water. There are others listed that have WP, but I'm stuck on the two I mentioned. Dave |
Tom's cupping reviews mention which decafs use the water process done in Mexico, the so-called "new" method. I've been using Donkey for a while. It makes a solid espresso and does well in caps (cuts through the milk sufficiently). Great body, but I find it lacking in distinctive flavor. Brown is delivering an order that includes the Ethopian decaf (a Sidamo Horse bean) today, so I'm hoping that will satisfy the distinctiveness factor I want. ---Frank ginny wrote: <Snip> |
MY favorate ever has been a Guatamalan, but even lots with good reviews are not predictable. My newest blend of favor of half DC, half regular (blended after roasting) is Brazil with Guatamalan going both ways. Brazil with Honduras COE was great too. MS wrote: Recently I had an absolutely fabulous Panamanian decaf which I was roasting to city - City + (about 435 degrees in around 10 minutes). Right now I am working on a Guatamalan Antigua that might be just as good or better. Only it is noticably spicier, somthing i didn't notice at all in th last Guatamalan beans I had. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. |
Ben Gold wrote: <Snip> The Panamanian sounds good. I have a friend who can only have decaf. I've told him about my home roasting fun, so I'm thinking a pound of home roasted decaf for him would be good. He can't have much caffeine, so appreciates decaf. I like full throttle, though. ;-) On a blend note, since blends are mentioned here, I ended up trying another blend by need of having more beans to grind and not enough of one. I had the last of the Bolivian taken to Vienna roast, but it was only half as much as I needed. Since I have a lot of the Brazilian Peaberry to go through, I added that to the mix. If you like just plain good coffee flavor, this would be a blend for you. The "raisin/plum" taste was very hard to pick out, but in there none-the-less. The bitterness of the Vienna roast and the mellowness of the Brazilian Peaberry (City+) seem to offset each other, as did the milk chocolate and raisin/plum flavors so that what you ended up with was no real distinguishing flavors that much, just a very "coffee" taste. Interesting, nothing that I probably would want normally, but just a nice solid cup of coffee. If you are looking for pizzas, this is not your blend! -- Rick Copple Marble Falls, TX |
I just got a batch of decaf coffee in that I am going to try roasting up. I remember seeing some words on the list that decaf behaves differently than regular coffee when roasting and that you have to do something special with it to get it to turn out good. Any ideas from others who have done decaf before? Thanks Aaron |
Aaron, I roast decaf regularly. The only thing special you have to do is listen closely for 1st and 2nd cracks. The cracking sounds in decaf are quieter and there are fewer of them. Otherwise, I roast them just like regular beans and you may need to play with the roasting profile to find the sweet spot. I have to say that I've never had a bad decaf from SM. I'm not roasting for espresso. Brent Roasting in an SC/TO For drip/moka/presspot brew <Snip> |
One thing when roasting decaf you are starting with a bean that is already= dark from the decaf processing. So you can't really judge your roast by the= color of the beans as they progress in the roasting process. And the cracks= are quite a bit quieter then non-decaf version of the same bean. On 4/30/05, Brent wrote: <Snip> -- Living Large In Waxhaw, NC. George Holt |
If you want to attenuate your decaf roasting, do a half pound in a
skillet or wok... It's nice and quiet, and you'll be able to control
the heat, the time, and listen to the cracks without any interruptive
noise from the roaster... This shold give you a decent first shot at
decaf, and give you a reference to color/roast level that can baseline
the same bean in any other roaster...
Good luck,
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Hi All, I thought I'd give an update into my decaf adventures. I roasted a pound o= f Komodo on Tuesday and tried it tonight after 36 hours rest. While it's not wonderful, it's really quite good. I'll try it again in the morning, but i= f decaf can taste this good then I'll give it more time. Thanks for all your tips. I took the roast pretty easy and made sure to roast it far enough. If I recall correctly, it went into second crack by about 30 seconds. Cheers, --Derek -- The Uglyroast 3! Coffee Roaster. ...Now 85% less ugly!http://uglyroast.atspace.com |
Homeroasted decaf is very good. All of Tom's offerings over the past coupl= e of years have been enjoyable. It would be cool to see some COE decafs. I find it funny that after homeroasting their own beans and discovering what a different world it is, people sometimes still look down their nose a= t homeroasted decaf. While there may be some subtle differences in taste for the normal palate, it's nothing really noticeable. It's definitely nothing like that horrid burnt-tasting stuff still available at many places. Decafs will probably become more popular as the baby boomers become the gra= y boomers. -- Brent Roasting in an SC/TO & i'Roast2 On 3/8/06, Derek Bradford wrote: <Snip> s <Snip> |
OK, maybe it's blaspemy to all the purists in this group, but I gotta ask. For having a group over in the evening, they don't want to lay awake all night because of the caffein. So - two questions. Is there any way to buy my coffee of choice and decaffeinate it myself? Or am I limited to the few choices I see at Sweet Maria's that is already decaf? Chuck |
...On the second point... I took some African Highland WP Decaf to a meeting of 30 people, and they are still talking about how rich the coffee was. They cannot believe it's decaf, but I heard more about it last night. Truly a success. Next Sunday I will take another decaf, and I expect the same raving responses. One of the downsides of our coffee pursuit is the stuff runs out. Doesn't matter which one you love, there will come a day of departure where you say goodbye. Either it is gone, or another crop just isn't the same... One of the upsides is the vast array of new coffees always showing up... Try Tom's decaffes... Brett On 10/9/06, Chuck Acridge wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com |
Chuck Acridge wrote: <Snip> Has anyone tried approximating / mimicking the Swiss Water process at home? The generalized descriptions I find on the net make it sound like all that is needed is fresh water, carbon filter system and the means to soak green beans. Doubtless there's more involved than that, but I'm curious if anyone's tried to "home-decaf"? Tim |
It's not blasphemy at all, Chuck- just realize all your friends are going to think they're drinking high octane Avgas if you freshroast some Decaf, especially those from Sweet Maria's! The 20-question pop test will be- How many won't be able to get to sleep because of the non-Decaf "you slipped them." Get ready, "Oh, I can't drink this. It's sure good but I can't drink regular coffee. Doctor's orders..." Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! "Stick of gum for the doc as you find a new one- Ray's orders." |
Chuck Acridge wrote: <Snip> Because some of my medication makes me very sensitive to caffeine, I use mostly decaf. Tom's decafs are great, and there is a pretty good choice, actually. They span the types of coffee quite well. I use a Solis Master 5000 for my decaf, and often have people claim that it just can't be decaf. As for your question, there is supposed to be a decaffeinating stir stick coming to market, but I have not seen the actual product yet. From what I have read it should work fairly well. Michael |
Tim, Unlike roasting, decaffination is a very sophisticated process if you want any flavor in your coffee. Sure you can soak everything out of a nice arabica bean and then you will have flat tasting blah brown water. Tom's decaf selection is very good and you can enjoy some awesome coffee. One of my favorite tricks is to mix a good Mexican decaf (current selection is Mexico Organic Chiapas WP Decaf) and mix it 50/50 for a good half caf. The Komoto blend is one of the best coffees on the list period! The African Highland blend can't be duplicated by anything in the caf section. I have been meaning to ask Tom if he could duplicate that blend in a caffeinated version it is so good! Les On 10/9/06, Tim Wat wrote: <Snip> |
Les wrote: <Snip> Hi, Les: Yes, I assumed that SW has a registered trademark for a reason, was just curious if some bold soul has actually tried to DIY it. Considering the lengths some have gone to explore the roasting experience, I thought someone might have tried their hand at decaf'ing. Best, Tim |
Les wrote: <Snip> Les, On a related note, I remember reading somewhere that roasting decaf has some notable differences than roasting "leaded". What's your experience? Tim |
Chuck, You cannot go wrong with the decafs that Tom offers. I have so much fun serving coffee to people and listening to them go on and on, then watch their jaw hit the floor when I tell them it is decaf! Eddie On 10/9/06, Chuck Acridge wrote: <Snip> |
--Apple-Mail-1--407733780 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset -ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed This is the same reaction I get too when announcing the coffee is decaf. I like to tell people that it's OK to like the decaf! ThBull 'running on 1/2 full' On Oct 9, 2006, at 5:26 PM, Eddie Dove wrote: Chuck, You cannot go wrong with the decafs that Tom offers. I have so much fun serving coffee to people and listening to them go on and on, then watch their jaw hit the floor when I tell them it is decaf! Eddie On 10/9/06, Chuck Acridge wrote: OK, maybe it's blaspemy to all the purists in this group, but I gotta ask. For having a group over in the evening, they don't want to lay awake all night because of the caffein. So - two questions. Is there any way to buy my coffee of choice and decaffeinate it myself? Or am I limited to the few choices I see at Sweet Maria's that is already decaf? Chuck |
--Apple-Mail-3--404445189 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset O-8859-1; format=flowed I have only had the Costa Rican Decaf - it is out of this world. I am trying a few others when Harvey gets here. Roasting the decafs do take some practice & getting used to (they do roast faster, and this one, at least, is darker to begin with - but oh, = what bliss!!! Lynne On Oct 9, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Eddie Dove wrote: <Snip> <Snip> <Snip> lay <Snip> s <Snip> --Apple-Mail-3--404445189 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset O-8859-1 I have only had the Costa Rican Decaf - it is out of this world. I am trying a few others when Harvey gets here. Roasting the decafs do take some practice & getting used to (they do roast faster, and this one, at least, is darker to begin with - but oh, what bliss!!! Lynne On Oct 9, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Eddie Dove wrote: Chuck, You cannot go wrong with the decafs that Tom offers. I have so much fun serving coffee to people and listening to them go on and on, then watch their jaw hit the floor when I tell them it is decaf! Eddie On 10/9/06, Chuck Acridge <<0000,0000,EEEEacridge> wrote: ask. For having a group over in the evening, they don't = want to lay awake all night because of the caffein. So - two questions. Is there any way to buy my coffee of choice and decaffeinate it myself? Or am I limited to the few choices I see at Sweet Maria's that is already decaf? Chuck homeroast mailing list 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://lists.sweetmarias.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroastTo change your personal list settings (digest options, vacations, unsvbscribes) go to = 0000,0000,EEEhttp://sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.ht=ml#personalsettings = --Apple-Mail-3--404445189-- |
On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 04:58:56PM -0700, Frank Awbrey wrote: <Snip> I second that. There are a lot of curmudgeonly folks around here that gripe about decaf as a matter of years of conditioning, it seems. The biggest problem with decaf is the lack of selection relative to regular beans. Well, and roasting decaf is quite a bit trickier, and the shelf life of both green and roasted beans seems to be less than non-decaf. But if you get everything right, the decaf beans offered by SM's can be really outstanding. Anyway, even if they're not quite as good as the regular beans, there is only so much regular coffee I can drink in a day. In fact, it's quite a small amount relative to how much I'd like to drink of all this wonderful coffee. Decaf lets me drink more coffee, and even if it's 0.002% less supremely delicious than regular coffee, I still pretty much always want another cup. |
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On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 03:14:59PM -0700, Wes Tyler wrote: <Snip> Well, the question you ought to be asking is which is the best crowd pleaser. The African Highlands blend is a great coffee, but most people will not like it because of the brightness. I have found the Komodo Blend roasted to a solid FC or FC+ to be a real crowd pleaser. It is ready to brew just a few hours after roasting, and remains quite drinkable for days, so you have latitude in your schedule. The Brazil, Oaxaca, and Guat would also be good choices, but I've found each of them to be a bit finicky -- you have to get the profile right for your roaster. The Komodo blend is very forgiving, so long as you don't turn it black. Stretch it out after first crack starts to develop body. -- Randall |
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Wes, African Highlands WP Decafe, roast to Full City. Beautiful floral = aroma, Mild, great balance. On a lighter note, Decafalon (n.): The grueling event of getting through = the day consuming only things that are good for you. |
I'd try the Guatemala Huehuetenango decaf, roasted to just FC (no further). It will surprise most decaf drinkers, and probably most regular drinkers who try it, with a good body and hints of chocolate. The Mexico Oaxaca is also very nice. In general I like the Central American decafs and some of the northern South Americans as well - e.g. the Colombia Huila. A friend said of the Colombia, "I like it - lots of coffee flavor," whatever that means. Larry On 9/9/07, Wes Tyler wrote: <Snip> |
I took a carafe of African Highlands Blend, FC+ Drip to our fellowship group tonight... I don't think you can go wrong with any of the decafs, but this is one of my favorites... Brett On 9/9/07, Wes Tyler wrote: <Snip> -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com |
This is a multipart message in MIME format. As a partaker in Brett's coffee tonight, I'd have to say it was awesome. Highly recommended! Dave From: homeroast-admin [mailto:homeroast-admin] On Behalf Of Brett Mason Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 8:52 PM To: homeroast Subject: Re: +Decaf I took a carafe of African Highlands Blend, FC+ Drip to our fellowship group tonight... I don't think you can go wrong with any of the decafs, but this is one of my favorites... Brett On 9/9/07, Wes Tyler wrote: I don't drink decaf, but am furnishing coffee for a church group in 2 weeks. Of the offerings currently available from SM, which do you decaf drinkers prefer? Thanks, Wes Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. -- Cheers, Bretthttp://homeroast.freeservers.com |
Wes, This doesn't seem like much help, everyone has such differing tastes, isn't it wonderful? I drink only decaf. My favorite everyday brew is the Mexico Organic Oaxaca Decaf, typically roasted to City +. I can't describe the flavors, but to me, I love the finish and the flavors that stay in the mouth after swallowing for quite some time. I'm new to home roasting, established June 1. I'm going to have to consult my log to see how many roasts I now have under the belt. I do roast non-decafs now and again to give as gifts and to hone my skills with actual green beans that produce chaff. I have just received my order of the *Kenya Peaberry Auction Lot WP Decaf *and I am on pins and needles looking forward to roasting some of that this evening after the kiddies are asleep. I'm sure whatever bean you choose to roast and brew for your church group will be appreciated by all. Regards, Bonnie P. Santa Rosa, CA On 9/9/07, Wes Tyler wrote: <Snip> |
Man say: "I don't drink decaf,..." [Nor do I!] "...but Of the offerings currently available from SM, which do you decaf drinkers prefer?" The answer to your question is, "Unequivocally,Yes!" My Celtic Critic honey Despises Coffee, including some of my early adventures in straight shots, but I finally roasted (FC+?- weren't shiny, now they are) and brewed some Ethiopian Harar MAO Horse DC beans I've had awhile. I got these when one of my older friends at the Kingdom Hall told me he likes coffee and had heard good things about my home roast. He could no longer tolerate the caffeine. When we remodeled the hall two weekends ago, I only took some of my normal coffee down in an airpot when I stayed overnight. (6p-9am- breakfast) Then I remembered the decaf Horse. I thought some might like it. What better time to try my first decaf roast? Hopefully my spiritual brothers would offer some helpful clues before they threw heavy things at me! Long story short- my Celtic Critic Honey loved the smell of it brewing, and asked for the Horse this morning- straight. Everybody that drank any of it described it as sensational, but thought it couldn't be decaf. Cheers -RayO, aka Opa! Only your roaster knows- - - On 9/9/07, Randall Nortman wrote: <Snip> |
The best a decaf can be.. Safe Journeys and Sweet Music Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX) On 9/11/07, raymanowen wrote: <Snip> |
Thanks to all who gave preferences and roast advice on decaf. I suppose the= only reasonable thing to do is order a pound of each and invite more peopl= e to the party. Wes= Be a better Globe= trotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers -= Check it out.http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 |
Now that sounds like a plan. On 9/11/07, Wes Tyler wrote: <Snip> -- Larry J |
What time should we arrive? Lynne On 9/11/07, Wes Tyler wrote: <Snip> |
On Dec 15, 2007 8:53 AM, miKe mcKoffee wrote: <Snip> Take care, Ann -- Sweet Maria's list searchable archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/index.htm |