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Topic: Down the drain + Illusion (3 msgs / 165 lines)
1) From: Steven Schreck
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Not a problem; we're not exactly talking nuclear fission here.

They went down the drain and "no problem".  As far as their having cleaned and (this seem a very long shoot to my understanding of the nature of blades and sharpening) "sharpened" the disposal blades; that is an entirely different matter.

Now a favorite quote from someone who has restructured western thought that is not likely to increase my popularity with the group, particularly at this time of year:

"In my Future of an Illusion I was concerned much less with the deepest sources of the religious feeling than with what the common man understands by his religion - with the system of doctrines and promises which on the one hand explains to him the riddles of this world with enviable completeness, and, on the other, assures him that a careful Providence will watch over his life and will compensate him in a future existence for any frustrations he suffers here.

The common man cannot imagine this Providence otherwise than in the figure of an enormously exalted father.  Only such a being can understand the needs of the children of men and be softened by their prayers and placated by the signs of their remorse.  The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the vast majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life.

 It is still more humiliating to discover now large a number of people living today, who cannot but see that this religion is not tenable, nevertheless try to defend it piece by piece in a series of pitiful rearguard actions. One would like to mix among the ranks of the believers in order to meet these philosophers, who think they can rescue the God of religion by replacing him by an impersonal, shadowy and abstract principle, and to address them with the warning words: "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain."

 And if some of the great men of the past acted in the same way, no appeal can be made to their example: we know why they were obliged to."  S. Freud

John Cramer wrote: Sorry, but I can't resist this thread. I've put them down the drain in two houses for 5 years!! Never have I had a bit of trouble with the plumbing. Let alone any do to the bean grounds. Experience is the greatest teacher.

John

Steven Schreck wrote:

> Shall I bow to the higher (?) authorities or quote the time honored > maxim of all free thinkers: "No deference will be made to authority; > data based on experimentation (empirical knowledge) provide the only > indicators worthy of respect".  (With, of course, no disrespect intended > to the two sources mentioned in your message.) > > In this case the least that might suffice as valid indicators would be a > number of laborious and time consuming experiments involving the > disassembly and careful examination of a "dirty" disposal mechanism and > it's subsequent reexamination after having been subjected to the bacon > grease/coffee grounds disposal as well as some disposals involving > various "control" materials/experiments > > Steven Schreck > > Peggy Kozy wrote: > > > By my Home Ec. Teacher in H.S. and my MOM.  Two experts > > in cleaning.


2) From: John Cramer
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Not good for ANY time of the year!
I'll pray that GOD has pity on him and releases him fom Hell.

John

Steven Schreck wrote: Not a problem; we're not exactly talking nuclear fission here.

They went down the drain and "no problem".  As far as their having cleaned and (this seem a very long shoot to my understanding of the nature of blades and sharpening) "sharpened" the disposal blades; that is an entirely different matter.

Now a favorite quote from someone who has restructured western thought that is not likely to increase my popularity with the group, particularly at this time of year:

"In my Future of an Illusion I was concerned much less with the deepest sources of the religious feeling than with what the common man understands by his religion - with the system of doctrines and promises which on the one hand explains to him the riddles of this world with enviable completeness, and, on the other, assures him that a careful Providence will watch over his life and will compensate him in a future existence for any frustrations he suffers here.

The common man cannot imagine this Providence otherwise than in the figure of an enormously exalted father.  Only such a being can understand the needs of the children of men and be softened by their prayers and placated by the signs of their remorse.  The whole thing is so patently infantile, so foreign to reality, that to anyone with a friendly attitude to humanity it is painful to think that the vast majority of mortals will never be able to rise above this view of life.

 It is still more humiliating to discover now large a number of people living today, who cannot but see that this religion is not tenable, nevertheless try to defend it piece by piece in a series of pitiful rearguard actions. One would like to mix among the ranks of the believers in order to meet these philosophers, who think they can rescue the God of religion by replacing him by an impersonal, shadowy and abstract principle, and to address them with the warning words: "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain."

 And if some of the great men of the past acted in the same way, no appeal can be made to their example: we know why they were obliged to."  S. Freud


3) From: E Lund
This is the clearest evidence I've seen
that Freud didn't drink coffee :)
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2000 00:01:39   Steven Schreck wrote:
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