| Recently got my first ibrik and brewed up some of a couple of Tom's espresso blends in it. Wow, interesting stuff and less sediment than with a French press! I used 2 SCAA scoops of beans and a level tablespoon of sugar in a little "3 cup" ibrik. Will cut the sugar back by half next try. The sugar dominated at that dosage level but was it ever smooth. Does anyone know, generally, what makes a Turkish blend, other than maybe the addition of some cardamon seeds? I recently had correspondence from Derek stating that SM hopes to have their ibriks back in stock again this summer and may be scouting for more at the SCAA show. -- Paul Helbert Prepackaged, roasted & ground coffee,,, Some of the worst ideas since sliced bread. Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures 9upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| As far as historically, I do believe that they were Yemeni coffees roasted very very dark. How dark, I don't know, hadn't thought about that, but I guess I'd think like French or so... but others would know better than I... Glad to hear that the ibrik was such a success! bill On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Paul Helbert wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures 9upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| When we were in Turkey a few years ago, everyone used Columbian beans (no cardamon.. I was told that was "Arabic" coffee, not "Turkish" -- Not trying to pick a fight.. just what I was told) :-) Grace and Peace, `tim On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Paul Helbert wrote: <Snip> -- The content of this e-mail may be private or of confidential nature. Do not forward without permission of the original author. -- Rev. Tim TenClay, NATA #253 Dunningville Reformed Church (www.dunningville.org) Blog:http://lexorandi.tenclay.orgHomeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures 9upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I've got a real live Turk sitting about 20 feet away... so I asked him. He says they call it "coffee". He says that they jokingly/ derogatorily call coffee prepared the way we do over here "nescafe" (he laughed when he said it, so I didn't take offense ;-) -- He also said he would teach me how to make it :-) -Peter On Apr 18, 2008, at 1:42 PM, Tim TenClay wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures 9upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Peter, Also ask him what he calls the pot in which the coffee is brewed. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Coffee wrote: <Snip> -- MichaelB Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures 9upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| In Iraq in '06 I bought a grinder and a Jeswue from Turkish vendor outside the PX at Camp Victory, Baghdad - he told me an Ibrik was a tea pot... This year at Fallujah, got the hairs cut by a Turk every week for 7 months - same thing, it was a jeswue not an Ibrik. So I am not sure what country calls it an Ibrik, but it isn't the Turks that I met. (Jeswue is a rough guess as to how it would be spelled - GESWE is about how it sounded). Sean On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:34 PM, MichaelB wrote: <Snip> -- Sean M. Cary Major USMC Tempus Fugit, Memento Mori Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures 9upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
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| He said: That pot is called "cezve" for you to read correctly probably written like this "jazvah". The Yemenites are calling it "Ibrik" read like "ebreq". -Peter On Apr 19, 2008, at 9:34 AM, MichaelB wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures 9upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| My Turkish co-worker's parents are visiting and they brought me a grinder and a set of cups and saucers with very cool design, both made in Turkey! -Peter Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| ... and some coffee that comes from a coffee company that has been in business since 1871!! -Peter On Jun 2, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Coffee wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I took my ibrik, knee mill, camping stove and SM skunk espresso cups to the farmer's market last Saturday. Showed it to Mr. Ahkmedov who sells the Akhaska bread near my chicken stand. He called it an ibrik, by the way. I told him I'd make coffee in it and then things got real busy with customers. I turned my back for a minute and had coffee all over the bed of the pickup and almost none in the ibrik. His bread sold out before my last customer showed up and he came looking for the coffee. I hadn't had time to grind as much as I'd have liked so it was a tad weaker than normal for Turkish, but he pronounced it "good". It was, too. Hope yours is as good. -- Paul Helbert Prepackaged, roasted & ground coffee,,, Some of the worst ideas since sliced bread. Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.homeroasting.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Hello everyone, I saw that SM's has begun selling Ibriks again, and I am curious if any of you have them or have brewed Turkish coffee. Have you enjoyed it? Are there any beans you would recommend? Thanks, Brian Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| No, but when I was in Istanbul it was great! But then I like sweet. On 8/25/08, Brian Salwasser wrote: <Snip> -- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Yippee, the ibriks are back! It's been a long time, close to three years, I bet! Thanks for the heads-up. I just ordered one of the glazed ones:http://www.sweetmarias.com/prod.brewers.ibrik.shtmlBrian On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Brian Salwasser wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| No! No! No! I have too many brewing methods with which I am not adept! I don't care if it's another 3 years until they come back! Of course, they are nice-looking... ha! nice score, Brian. And thanks, Brian S., for the heads up! bill On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| There is a Turkish fellow who sells wonderful breads and sweet treats at the local farmer's market. I made coffee in a small ibrik and split it with him a few months ago and it seems to have made us instant friends. Making Turkish (Greek) coffee is fun and the resultant brew is good. I usually so not use sugar as is usually done around the Mediterranean. There are pointers on making it on SM, CoffeeGeek and others. Just Google it. -- Paul Helbert Mid Atlantic Home Roaster's Gatheringhttp://paul.helbert.googlepages.com/midatlantichomeroaster'sgatheringHomeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I make turkish coffee all the time in a brass ibrik. I have had every coffee that way. They are all good. I have particularly enjoyed yemen, dreaming that I am drinking one of the original coffees in an ancient way. Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| Great imagery, Dean. Thanks for bringing out a new dimension in coffee enjoyment! Brian On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:20 PM, wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Thanks for the tips everyone, especially Dean. I have 1/2 lb. of Yemen Mokha Sana'ani in my stash. I'm going to order an Ibrik and see how it goes! On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Yummmm...im gonna do the same. Its thick coffee, not unlike FP but smoother. I have on occasion used a tiny pinch of cardamon...very interesting. I have also had much interest in the etiopian roast/brew coffee ceremony. I have wanted to get ahold of their small pan roaster that is used. They roast, grind by essentially mortar, and brew in one session for centuries. Anybody know about these things. Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| Yummmm...im gonna do the same. Its thick coffee, not unlike FP but smoother. I have on occasion used a tiny pinch of cardamon...very interesting. I have also had much interest in the etiopian roast/brew coffee ceremony. I have wanted to get ahold of their small pan roaster that is used. They roast, grind by essentially mortar, and brew in one session for centuries. Anybody know about these things. Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| Yummmm...im gonna do the same. Its thick coffee, not unlike FP but smoother. I have on occasion used a tiny pinch of cardamon...very interesting. I have also had much interest in the etiopian roast/brew coffee ceremony. I have wanted to get ahold of their small pan roaster that is used. They roast, grind by essentially mortar, and brew in one session for centuries. Anybody know about these things. Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| Quick question about grinding for turkish coffee. I was looking at the Zassenhaus turkish grinder on SM's page. and was wondering if it actually grinds differently than the other Zass grinders, or if it was functionally the same and made for portability/travel? Has anyone used the turkish grinder for drip coffee? It definitely looks easier to pack for traveling. ----- Original Message ---- From: "decrisce.md" To: homeroast Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 4:34:00 PM Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Turkish Coffee Yummmm...im gonna do the same. Its thick coffee, not unlike FP but smoother. I have on occasion used a tiny pinch of cardamon...very interesting. I have also had much interest in the etiopian roast/brew coffee ceremony. I have wanted to get ahold of their small pan roaster that is used. They roast, grind by essentially mortar, and brew in one session for centuries. Anybody know about these things. Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| "...grind by essentially mortar, and brew in one session for centuries. Anybody know about these things." You must recall that there are members of the list for whom the strain of aiming a heat gun and stirring beans for the HG/DB roast is very great. I did the mortar and pestle grinder thing for One (1) 8cup drip pot, Once! Long, Long Time ago. The Cherry micro switch at the end of the push button / pushrod had a coffee particle in it. It only took about thirty years to find its way into the switch. A quick blast of brake cleaner made it all better after I had it apart. I'm sure that blade grinder made less of a grind potpourri than the mortar and pestle. The hand said Thanks! The goats were ahead of their time. What looked like a dance to the inexperienced eye was actually the hoof 'n slate grind of some cherries that had already been roasted by a camp fire. Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa! Got Grinder? Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| RayO, I look for your byline first thing every morning and almost always get a good laugh to start my day. You are one of the many folks on this list I'd like to meet someday (if only to find out if your humor is spontaneous of if you spend hours crafting your remarks). Thanks, On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 4:18 AM, wrote: <Snip> -- Paul Helbert Mid Atlantic Home Roaster's Gatheringhttp://paul.helbert.googlepages.com/midatlantichomeroaster'sgatheringHomeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| The Zass Turkish grinder is adjustable over a wide range from powder to chunks. I've used it for a variety of brewers, but not yet for making Turkish, Greek, etc. coffee. Dave Westerville, OH On 8/26/08, Benjamin VerHage wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| The burrs are smaller on the Zass Turkish grinder, as well as the reservoirs holding both the beans and the ground coffee. It will grind very fine. Probably fine enough for Turkish coffee. I have never used mine for that. I use mine for travel since it requires very little packing space. The main drawback is you have to turn the crank a lot more for less ground coffee than a regular Zass. I do really like it for travelling. On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Benjamin VerHage wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Dean, I couldn't answer any of your questions about grinding, but I do have one of the small pan roasters that is used in Ethiopia. My wife facilitates international adoptions, and has traveled a few times with families to Adis Ababa. She was impressed with their roasting methods (small pan over an open fire), and brought back a pan for me this last February. I haven't used it yet, because I only have access to an electric stove and I just don't see that working. We did go camping last month, and I thought about bringing it to roast some beans over the camp fire as a demonstration for my wife's family. Then I thought I would just be ruining some good beans. I did bring some the fresh roasted Yemen, Ethiopian Sidamo, and the Italian Espresso Blend beans I roasted via the Behmor. My brother-in-law had a car adapter so that I could plug in a whirly blade grinder every morning. We boiled water over the camp-fire and I brought my "camping" FP (REI gift registry for our wedding last year). They loved it, but oddly enough most of them enjoyed the espresso blend the most. The exception was the few people who drank my coffee without creamer (talk about insults...). Ok, that's enough rambling for one day. Enjoy your three-day weekend everyone! Brian On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 4:34 PM, wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I learned to make Turkish coffee in a small Turkish village while serving in the Peace Corps in the mid 1960s. Ahmet taught me to bring the ibrik to a first boil, stir, then rapidly bring to a second boil, stop and then bring to a third boil and then stop and pour. The second and third boils come very fast and the main purpose behind the third is to settle the grounds. I've been making perfect Turkish coffee this way for 40 years. Tom **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Thanks Brian. Interesting camping story. Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| Hi - I'm a beginner. In order to reproduce a cup of Turkish Coffee I had in the Cairo market 25 years go, I bought a Behmor and learned to roast SM Yemen beans. Then I got one of their beautiful new ibriks. I have an old Turkish hand crank grinder that barely works, but it does produce a talcum powder like grind <Snip> but still not as fine as talcum powder. In any case, my first cup, as per SM instructions, produced an out-of-body hallucinatory experience that was intense and amazing, and kept me high for five or six hours - I want to do it again! If I get a Mazzer Mini, will it, or any other burr grinder, produce that talcum powder like consistency of the hand grinders? Apparently the Zassen hand grinders are unavailable. Thanks, Dan <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Dan, You can grind nice and fine with the Mazzer Mini. I can't vouch for the Rocky, because I have never ground that fine with one. Les On 9/4/08, dan weeks wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Mazzer Mini is capable to make a grind one could snort On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:01 AM, Les wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I can attest to that .... the grinding, that is. cheers, Scott On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Barry Luterman wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Loved your sharing the 'trip'. Now you have an idea of what some experience with a 'spro godshot. (Hmmm, ahhhhallucinatory cup now, next Turkish brewing use it to wash down some 'shrooms:-) Yes, grinders like the MM can grind super fine for Turkish. "Any other" burr grinder is too open ended. You need very very tight steps or better yet stepless AND need good ridged burr carrier so the burrs can grind extrememly fine without clashing. I highly suspect grinding that fine "could" be done with Maestro class grinders, but considering how fast grinding for 'spro dulls the Maestro burrs it'd only be worse for Turkish. Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Pacific Northwest Gathering VIIhttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/">http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVII.htmSweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Dan, Wow, Turkish Coffee in Cairo, sounds like one of those peak life experiences. I collect coffee grinders. I finally found the original Zass Turkish grinder of my dreams. An ebay find. Virtually new. Beautiful little units. They can be found if you really want one. True, lots of arm work. For me It's all part of the "out-of-body hallucinatory experience". Do you have any kids that like to work gadgets? Put them to work with a Zass. Happy Turkish, JoeR On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 9:11 PM, dan weeks wrote: <Snip> -- Ambassador for Specialty Coffee and pallet reform. Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Dan, you want Fine? Burrs can definitely do it- maybe not the hybrid toys like Solis, Virtuoso. I put new burrs in my used grinder when I first got it- The new burrs were waiting when Brown came to the porch sweating, hugging a big box. Whoopee! I have used the grinder to grind whole kernel Hard Red Winter Wheat to flour for bread and bagel making. It makes mighty fine flour when the adjusting ring is set to 2, 3 or 4. I've only done that flour grinding a few times. It's the only way I can get fresh ground whole grain flour. It works OK, but I didn't get the Mazzer for that purpose... Normal for press is about 52 and the last gorgeous espresso was ground at 19. I arbitrarily set the BUFF to 7, to get smaller than 0.005" coffee particle size for my sojourn into Turkish coffee. It wurkt good. Steamed the 186° water in the Technivorm pot back up to 201°- just read= y to boil over. Pour over grounds in borosilicate glass Bodum cup. Steam the brewing coffee a couple of more times to maintain the temperature in the insulated glass. The steam wand can't actually boil it, but so close. Just let it sit to steep and settle out for the last minute. Ray's way! Decanted a couple of sips of the 4-minute-brewed coffee into my mouth. Wow! The toasted Hazelnuts were back with caramel, semi sweet chocolate and maybe tart cherries. I love it! Actually, the Solis Maestro + came set very tight from their assembly line. It almost made dust three steps below Drip index mark. One more step, and the burrs clashed. The Virtuoso burrs also clashed at about the same spot when I installed them for my friend. The Solis Maestro, Virtuoso, Bodum Antigua, and the Zassenhaus grinders all had the so-called hybrid burrs Long before some Madison Avenue jock decided to fleece the gullible $4 / gallon public with a new moniker on the old burr configuration. The new machines with the new moniker are far more complex. Lots of nooks, crannies to hide ground coffee. Just wait until the new owners discover the Tyranny of Numbers, or vice-versa. If the available space or your spouse won't accommodate the grinder, get out the chain saw! Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa! On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:11 PM, dan weeks wrote: <Snip> I <Snip> fee.com <Snip> ee.com <Snip> -- = "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976 Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee=.com Homeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee=.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=7820 |
| Thanks for the feedback everyone. Have to admit that even the pulverized grind from the Bodum has been enough to change my life. I used to drink 2 thermos a day of whatever brown water I could find. Now, one good Turkish in the morning and I'm good for the day! However, I might still add the Mazzer Mini because, in addition to the Turkish Heaven, I'm now tempted to explore the Lever Espresso world of the Gaggia Achilles. Beginner's question: Can a properly pulled shot of espresso ever approach the sublime rush of a real Turkish? Or is Espresso really just gilding the lily? Thanks - Dan Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I was into Turkish coffee for a short while, and during that time someone on the list suggested motor and pestle for grinding for Turkish. I purchased a motor and pestle, but by the time it arrived I had moved on to moka pot extracting and never tried the motor and pestle for Turkish. If it works, it would be a cheap way of grinding for Turkish without ever having to replace the burrs. Brian On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:11 AM, dan weeks wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Thanks Brian - I tried the mortar and pestle early in my research - this method is extremely laborious, time consuming and produced uneven results - perhaps my mortar and pestle are too small - a larger surface- grinding area might be faster and more consistent, but in either case I'm too lazy to do it every day! Dan On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Brian Kamnetz wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I use a motor and pestle and it works fine. I can't see using a $300 grinder to do something which can easily be done with a $10 tool (Ikea has a nice M&P for that price). Roasted coffee beans are not very hard and are no match for a granite or marble M&P. Btw, I have a couple of Turkish grinders, including a Zass. I still prefer the M&P. Angelo <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| When I did 2 years spook work in Eritrea (Asmara, Kagnew Station, late 60s), the locals only used mortar and pestle for their turkish coffee. Works great. BarryD Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| It seems that to make turkish grind on the rocky, I have to set it essentially at true zero...but the carriers scrape...which concerns me. Any body use the rocky for that purpose? Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| Les, It seems you are a fan of the Cimbali Max Hybrid - will it grind Turkish equally as fine as the Mazzer Mini? On Sep 5, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Les wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| "...the carriers scrape...which concerns me." The burrs of the Rocky look like the Mazzer burrs. They're identical and if they "clash," the only part that touches is the flat outer edges, not the cutting edges. No Damage is caused. Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa! On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 7:42 PM, wrote: <Snip> -- "When the theme hits the bass, I dance the Jig!" - -Virgil Fox at the Mighty Wichita (ex- NYC Paramount) WurliTzer- 1976 Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Espresso is king! I love turkish...but the quick pressure of espresso extraction brings out all the flavors in a much different way. Turkish to me is more like a concentrated press pot...espresso is entirely in a separate class. Have fun! Dean De Crisce Sent from a Treo phone. |
| I'll have to try my mortar and pestle and see how it works. I suppose it would work best with a darker roast, since bean integrity would be most compromised in a dark roast and the beans would break up more easily. My mortar and pestle is at home but I would guess it's about 3.5 inches across. Maybe the larger size will make it a bit easier to use for coffee smashing. It's never been used for anything else, so I don't have to worry about contamination. Brian On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:23 PM, dan weeks wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Beginner's question: "Can a properly pulled shot of espresso ever approach the sublime rush of a real Turkish?" Beginner's answer: My original project to disprove the credibility of espresso has met with utter and complete failure. I resolved to keep the test fair by trying my best to make a good shot. Let me tell you- It's been like the Sunrise and Cloudburst movements of *The Grand Canyon Suite*. The longer I try to prove how bad espresso is, the deeper I'm hooked. I really stepped in it when miKe sent me a Kona roast tradition. I already had the new burrs for it, and the Major arrived the next day. El swappo - - the Maestro+ only got used once on the good beans. The nagging problems I noticed with the Maestro's burrs weren't even so bad with the 10 year old burrs in the Major. With the new ones, my ship just came in. Espresso isn't "as good as..." anything. It's a measure of the barista. Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa! Got Grinder? Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Dan, I really like Dean De Crisce's response but Mabuhay -RayO response says it all. Don't compare espresso to anything..... Check out the man behind the curtain. JoeR On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:17 AM, dan weeks wrote: <Snip> -- Ambassador for Specialty Coffee and pallet reform. Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |