| There's Been A Lot Of Talk Lately About Cleaning The Inside Of The Behmor. What About The Drum Itself? I Used Bon Ami On The Inside and It Worked Great. A Little Nervous About Soaking The Drum In A Bon Ami Solution. Any Thoughts? |
| Cleaning the inside of the Behmor is a must. It reduces the chance of chaff fires. In addition, keeping the walls shiny insures accurate readings for the thermocouple. The drum, however, should be left to develop a patina which will help flavor the coffee. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 2:19 PM, disracer wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I wiped mine down with a Cafiza solution, let it sit, sponged it off and rinsed. Got roast flavors off, but there is sort of a burnished bronze color remaining. Soaking in Bon Ami doesn't make sense, as Bon Ami is for scrubbing--it's a mild abrasive. Probably do better soaking in a grease-cutter like Dawn or orange-oil based solution and then scrubbing with a paste of Bon Ami on a sponge. BTW, I have been utterly unable to find Orange Clean or Simple Green anywhere in Chicago--not in Whole Foods (Seventh Gen. and their house brand have taken over) nor the mainstream supermarkets like Jewel, Dominicks or Target (it's disappeared and in its place is the Clorox "green" line--did Clorox buy the company or formula?) On Aug 24, 2008, at 7:19 PM, disracer wrote: <Snip> Sandy Andina www.myspace.com/sandyandina Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I use an orange based cleaner on the glass lid of my turbo roaster. Its about the only stuff that really cuts that smoke buildup. On 8/25/08, Sandy Andina wrote: <Snip> -- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Simple Green has been sighted at SAMs in the last 24 hours. Sandy Andina wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Sam's and Lowe's are the places I regularly buy it. cheers, Scott On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Rich wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Barry, Hi. I hope this finds you well. Please excuse my ignorance on this one. I am very good at cleaning the inside of my Behmor after every roast, plus doing the 5th roast self-cleaning process. I have never cleaned the drum, but did have the same question and was about to post it when it came up. I see what you are saying, but won't the oils build up and present a fire or a smoke situation? Or do they get burned off, if they even get on it, during the self-cleaning? Sorry to ask such a basic question, but I just don't know the answer. Thank you, in advance, for your help. Stephen At 03:05 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I don't belong to SAM's, as I don't do Wal-Mart. Does Costco carry it? On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Rich wrote: <Snip> Sandy Andina www.myspace.com/sandyandina Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Cleaning off the oils is fine, but the metal of the mesh itself darkens (heat annealing?) to a patina that shouldn't be disturbed. On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Stephen Carey wrote: <Snip> Sandy Andina www.myspace.com/sandyandina Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Simple Green is probably easier to find in auto parts stores. -- Paul Helbert Mid Atlantic Home Roaster's Gatheringhttp://paul.helbert.googlepages.com/midatlantichomeroaster'sgatheringHomeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Sandy, Costco lists it on their web page for $10.09 per gallon including UPS shipping. I don't remember seeing it in the local Costco but I don't think I have gone down that aisle. pecan jim On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:52 PM, Sandy Andina wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I've seen Simple Green in Krogers and Meijers. Dave Westerville, OH On 8/25/08, Paul Helbert wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Sandy just answered it. The oils will be driven off by the heat. It is the same principal as seasoning a new cooking pot. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Stephen Carey wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Try Lowes or home Depot for simple green. That is where I get mine. -------------------------- Lt. Alex Fitch From my iPhone On Aug 25, 2008, at 15:32, Sandy Andina wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I was in Costco tonight but they didn't have it--will try Lowe's tomorrow. On Aug 25, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Jim Gundlach wrote: <Snip> Sandy Andina www.myspace.com/sandyandina Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I know of absolutely no good reason to clean a roaster drum, be it Behmor, HotTop, Probat, Diedrich, USRC... Quite the contrary, drums roast best seasoned. Same goes for Rosto or Popper etc. chamber, let the roast patina be! Do you really think Tom's pulling the drum out of his Probat L12 and soaking it in anything? Why would you treat a small drum any different than the top professionals treat their roaster drums? Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Pacific Northwest Gathering VIIhttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/">http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVII.htmSweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| "...Nervous About Soaking The Drum In A Bon Ami Solution. Any Thoughts?" Yes. Bon Ami is not like carburetor or injector body cleaner. It is not a solvent that removes rust, dirt and excess paint by chemical action. Bon Ami acts like a transmission that connects your arm muscles to the scrubbing and polishing particles. Soaking the drum just prolongs the cleaning cycle, because it just delays the application of elbow grease. If you don't care if your gets clean, just soak it in Bon Ami. It's a very fine scouring powder. Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa! Got Grinder? Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Mike, I didn't know, that is why I was asking. The Behmor is not like the Probat L 12, so I just want to do things correct and I thought it was okay to ask them here. Maybe not. Stephen At 09:58 PM 8/25/2008, you wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Yeah right! As if it's not OK to ask questions on this forum. Ask away, that's the joy of this place.bill On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Stephen Carey wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Of course it's okay to ask anything about roasting on the List, or virtually anything coffee in general for that matter. Thoughts were asked for, I simply gave mine. And on second thought there could possibly be reasons to clean a roaster drum like the Behmor wire mesh. If over time the mesh got gunked over decreasing it's effective mesh opening size that might effect how the heat is transfer to the beans or chaff discharged. Indeed while the Behmor is a drum roaster it is also indeed very different design than a commercial solid drum roaster. Different in air flow, way heat applied to beans, way chaff removed, much slower rpm to think of a few differences. Which is not to say all commericial drum roasters are the same either! None the less if I was routinely roasting with a Behmor, which I'm not though I have one, I'd not bother cleaning the drum unless roast challenges arose. Then I'd soak the drum in a Cafiza (or PuroCaff etc.) solution, brush and rinse it. But if it ain't broke don't fix it:-) Kona Konnaisseur miKe mcKoffeehttp://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must">http://www.mcKonaKoffee.comURL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:http://www.mckoffee.com/Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. Pacific Northwest Gathering VIIhttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/">http://home.comcast.net/~mckona/PNWGVII.htmSweet Maria's List - Searchable Archiveshttp://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/ <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| Makes sense, thanks. Stephen At 01:40 AM 8/26/2008, you wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |
| I do the self-clean cycle every five roasts and also then clean the inside surfaces with a damp cloth with a tiny little bit of dishwash liquid ("Dawn"). Then I come back through with a damp towel, water only, and wipe off the soap. It seems to do a fine job as the glass window is nice and clear afterwards and there is no discoloration evident inside the roaster where I have cleaned. I have never cleaned the drum. I have never had a roaster fire, nor have I seen more than a couple of chaff sparks in 40 + roasts. I normally don't go into second crack and I suppose if the roasts went that far, smoke and discoloration would be more of an issue and stronger cleaners might be needed. Safe Journeys and Sweet Music Justin Marquez (CYPRESS, TX) On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:19 PM, disracer wrote: <Snip> Homeroast mailing list Homeroasthttp://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20">http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/listinfo.cgi/homeroast-sweetmariascoffee.comHomeroast community pictures -upload yours!) :http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemIdx20 |